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Hundreds of vipers vaping in our fifth thread!!

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magimedi · 06/04/2014 13:47

Here we go! Thread five! Thread four filled in one month!

Here is a link to thread four & you can work back from there.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2017939-Nest-of-Vapers-we-continue-to-not-BU-to-carry-on-vaping?pg=1

We are all always happy to answer any question. No question is too daft or unreasonable! We all know what a minefield of terminology it is when you first take up vaping.

Here is Allergic's great summary for anyone who is starting vaping:

""A very simple guide for those who have been a bit overwhelmed by all the variety discussed on this thread. Experienced vapers either ignore, or check for errors please!

There can be a trade off to be considered around cost, variety, overall experience and hassle.

The cigalike ones are the simplest to deal with in that you just unscrew one cart & screw in another. These tend to be the type that you can buy at the local market or shopping centre for a comparatively cheap initial purchase, but the carts they use can be very expensive and tend to be limited in flavours/strengths depending on brand. They can be useful in that they are small, look the most like "real" cigs, and are the most hassle-free, but the experience really isn't as good as other methods and the cost is higher.

The next step is to have a battery and disposable tank type system (CE4 in my case) where you buy the different liquids and fill the tank yourself. The batteries last a few months to a year (about the same or a little longer than the cigalikes) and the tanks (clearomisers) last anything from a couple of weeks to a couple of months - this can be extended by cleaning, but the coils inside do eventually pack in. This method is much cheaper and gives a much more satisfying experience, but has the added faff of unscrewing and topping up the tank rather than just chucking the

You can then go further and use tanks that have replaceable wicks & coils, can be stripped down & "serviced" etc. There's also a lot of variety and complexity available in the overall set-up e.g. variable voltage batteries. All these add to the hassle factor but allow the overall experience to be much better fine tuned to suit the vaper. Cost is a moot point here - you will save money using serviceable tanks, but people that get really into this can spend a fair bit on shiney new toys!

When it comes to the "juice" or liquid there's a hell of a lot of different things to consider - nicotine strength, flavour, the balance of "throat hit" vs vapour etc. But basically there are 3 ways to get the right juice which are buy ready made from a big importer (limited options), buy made to order from a smaller supplier (needs to steep for a few days), or buy the makings & mix your own (hassle, mess & steeping). These have been ordered from minimum hassle/maximum price to maximum hassle/minimum cost.

I'm a naturally lazy person and comparatively new to vaping, so I have a battery & disposable tank system, and am currently buying imported juice (Hangsen pineapple and Smartjuice Red tobacco flavour) which I know has steeped plenty while being shipped over and both brands have very good quality control. I will probably go directly to mostly mixing my own once I get a bit more money at the end of the month to buy all the bits & base liquids, though will probably continue buying the Smartjuice tobacco flavour because I like it so much! I doubt I will go down the road of serviceable tanks unless I get a nice glass one eventually."

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Dwerf · 20/04/2014 18:40

I was having a conversation with the blokes in the taxi rank office last night, who were both vaping. One of them let me sniff his liquid (oh, that sounds filthy). It was custard creme flavour. I'm not a massive fan of the biscuits but that smelled gorgeous.
And then he told me it was £11 for 15ml, so I went off the idea of sourcing some then.

Jux · 20/04/2014 19:10

Dwerf, when in doubt, google (or youtube!). Here - custard cream eliquids

marketplace.planetofthevapes.co.uk/Custard-Cream £12 for 30ml

www.wavesofvapour.co.uk/Custard_Cream_Biscuits/p1589930_7543376.aspx £5 for 10ml

Dwerf · 20/04/2014 19:17

I shall tell the bloke he's being robbed Grin

Lora1982 · 20/04/2014 19:32

I shall have to google how to clean it then cos its not one of the types that comes apart, only the mouthpiece comes off

Lora1982 · 20/04/2014 19:32

Ive only really used it for 2 weeks

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 20/04/2014 19:35

There are some gourmet juices out there that some people reckon are well worth the money so maybe it was something posh?

Grant's Vanilla Custard is supposed to be the one to try if you like custardy flavours. It's £5 for 10ml but he sells out the day he releases a new batch so you probably have to know someone to get your hands on any. Maybe worth setting up a google alert if you really wanted to buy some.

I haven't tried it but would be interested. Usually I just vape hangsen RY4 and RY6 from Premier ecigs and bargain vapour.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 20/04/2014 19:50

I have seen a video for dry burning a CE4 Lora but I no longer have the link. It's worth doing a search on youtube. I did it myself in the early days, it was quite fiddly but kind of worked.

They are basically meant to be disposable though and only last a few weeks at best. Hope you have some spares, if not, it's definitely time to get some.

Allergictoironing · 20/04/2014 20:01

Lora try just taking it off the battery, take the drip tip off, empty it out (dump the remaining liquid in it. Then fill with warm water, cover the end & shake vigorously. Empty & repeat half a dozen times or so.

In theory you should leave it to dry for 24 hours, but if you need it right away you can dry burn it. To do this blow through it a few times to clear any liquid in the tube, then attach to the battery still empty. Hit the button for 2-3 seconds, stop, then hit it again. I find doing that about half a dozen times means it's dry enough to refill with your liquid of choice - just remember it'll take a little while for the flavour to get back into the wick properly. Try not to over-do the dry burn, or everything could end up tasting burnt!

Dwerf · 20/04/2014 20:12

I'm not over fussy what flavours I vape, I'd rather pay £2.50 for 10mls rather than £5.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 20/04/2014 21:01

Psst - you can get hangsen at £2/10ml from premier ecigs Smile

Also worth looking at are Joose Juice - £1.49/10ml (that's cheaper than when I last looked!) - these ones need steeping, i.e. try not to vape them for a week or so.

Lora1982 · 20/04/2014 22:29

I think its buggered I noticed the contact at the bottom is a bit wet so it must be leaking... not to worry though ive got about 6 new types coming soon.

New question for anyone using gs-h2s. Ive just ordered some 1.5ml ones (wish id ordered bigger but never mind) the replacement coils can I use any for the gs-h2s or do I need to find some specifically for a 1.5ml tank? Confused.

Lora1982 · 20/04/2014 22:31

Ive ordered so much these past few days ive actually forgot whats coming!!

Shonajay · 20/04/2014 23:22

I spent a bit at the c,losing website- felt bad, some of the liquids were £1.63! Ent him an email saying I'd happily add on 20% to my order, good service and these shops are closing? Not good. We should support the small businessses.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 20/04/2014 23:27

GS-H2s are all 1.5 ml. There is a larger version called a GS-H5 but I have found it goes a bit gurgly so not a fan. There is another model called, if I remember right, GS-H5C - these have a different shaped bottom and perform a bit better. Both GS-H5 models take the same coils as GS-H2. They are easy to recoil yourself which works out a lot cheaper and they work better than the bought coils. I can tell you all about how to do that if you are interested Smile

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 20/04/2014 23:28

That is a rotten reason to have to close their business. Sad

Lora1982 · 21/04/2014 00:34

Ooh yes please do! Im all about saving pennies pubegarden

Shonajay · 21/04/2014 08:57

Has anyone heard anything good about these? Just think it would be a great shape to hold.

Innoken 2 I think and I want one!

Hundreds of vipers vaping in our fifth thread!!
PlentyOfPubeGardens · 21/04/2014 09:17

OK Lora I'll see if I can crank up the proper computer in a bit and find you some links Smile

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 21/04/2014 09:18

That's the Innokin Hand Grenade Coolfire 2 Shona. I have heard they are good.

Shonajay · 21/04/2014 09:40

Thanks pube gardens, was just surfing last night and trying to refills my MVP two its broken. Lights coming on but no vapour. Quite liked the grenade look. So upset about the MVP it was a cracker as well, in future am gonna ski ask someone sle to do it for my I still have very shaky hankss from morpgine.SO angry with myself! X

Shonajay · 21/04/2014 09:45

Is this the previous one to the innokin 2!? I actually prefer it if I could get ride of the green tank! Any thoughts on this (other than yes I stupid, and what a total idiot I'm on).

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 21/04/2014 10:16

Its not broken! You will have screwed the clearo on too tight and pushed the pin down, I bet you. There's an easy fix, if I can get my old lappy to work I will find the link.

Shonajay · 21/04/2014 10:20

Oh pub I love you!! Fingers crosse x

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 21/04/2014 10:27

You can also pull down the centre pin of your clearo a bit, but careful you don't pull it out.

To avoid this next time, only screw the clearo on until the threads start to 'bite', don't screw it down tight.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 21/04/2014 11:49

So, rebuilding a GS-H2 coil head (this method is the same for evods, protank heads and probably a few more):

You will need -

  • a steady hand and fairly good close-up eyesight
  • some wick - I use 3mm.
  • something to read ohms. If you have a vamo or an mvp you already have this. If not, these work well. You can use an ordinary multimeter but you need an extremely steady hand to get a stable reading.
  • a pair of nail clippers, wire cutters or even sharp scissors for cutting the wick and wire
  • needle nosed pliers, fine tweezers or just a good strong thumb nail are useful at various stages of the process.

The method I use is similar to except I push the pin carefully through the centre of the wick before coiling. I also don't bother with dry burning and soaking the new coil. Instead I run a lighter along the wire until it glows red before coiling. This also makes the wire a bit less springy and easier to work with.

Using 3mm wick and 0.2mm kanthal, I get 1.8 ohms from 4 wraps and 2.2 ohms from 5 wraps.

It's a good idea to watch a few different videos (search on youtube for evod rebuild) as everybody has a slightly different way of doing things. This way you will get an idea of what the essential parts of the process are and what is just personal variations. Over time you will develop a method that works for you.

Expect your first attempt to take about an hour and to involve much swearing Grin It gets easier very quickly as you learn the knack. I can do one in under 5 minutes now.

Good luck!