To absolutely fucking hate...

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...kids that squeal at the top of their voices for absolutely no reason than wanting attention!

And also their parents for not making them shut the hell up!

Im not talking babies or even toddlers, but young children just bloody squealing! Argh!!!!!!

Just before I go to bed, I never brought up SN on this thread but I did lash out at some really horrible posts.

My dd is 14 and I've encountered ignorance for years and developed a thick skin. However, today I am tired, I have a stinking cold, I've had a terrible few days with dd and other stuff I won't bother to mention. Everyone can have days when this shit just gets to them.

wet august I said that up thread about people not championing their cause by being like that it was totally ignored.

fuck it.

As frank Carson said..it's the way you tell it

Night all

You weren't ignored Andsmile. I read your thread and I agreed with you.

Night Fanjo. Hope you're feeling better tomorrow Thornrose - it's Mothers Day - not that my DS will notice - ah well.

OH! I beg your pardon. I must have missed it amongst my annoyance.

This thread has really bugged me.

Mothers Day ah yes, no pressure

YABU - children making noise for attention. Shock horror!
I can think of many more things that deserve my hatred than children making noise...

I think YANBU, I hate it too!.

I have tinnitus. A loud high pitch squeal is enough to set it going quite badly. I'm sure it's not easy to stop a small child from screeching/screaming/ squealing but I wish that people would at least TRY.

wetaugust thank you. I have read the whole thread and your posts are brilliant. The parents of children with sn who I know in RL mainly have your attitude. You have written calmly, rationally and helpfully.

Fwiw, to the posters who asked how they can stop their (nt) children from screaming/squealing...

Remove them! Take them outside, to one side and explain that it's not ok to scream/squeal where they are and explain why. If they do it again, take them home!

I have children. Sometimes they really like to squeal because they enjoy the noise. But it's really annoying (even to me who thinks they're perfect and so I don't let them (unless we're at soft play, park etc and it's not too loud). But cafés, shops, anywhere with other people who won't appreciate massive noises - no.

I have taken my children home when it has been MASSIVELY inconvenient for me. Eg half way through a big tesco shop. But it works and if they're too loud now they can stop screaming if I explain why/ask them too. As they get older they are able to understand and empathise with other people.

And yes, I do find random screaming very annoying. I generally assume the child might have sn and don't stare or tut though. But if the noise is too bad then I remove myself because it's so jarring!

That is a shame.

Because..yes..wetaugust posts well and calmly and says we shouldn't mention SN that is now seen as the only acceptable way for people with children with sN to post.

And the others can shut up and get back in their box basically.

Quite sad how this has gone really.

"That is how the SN parents I know behave".

Well good. But some may feel upset by things on here or want to add their viewpoint about their experience.

But no..they should be good little Sn parents and know their place and keep quiet.

It wasnt what Wet intended but it sure as hell will be leapt on to back that viewpoint up now. A sad day.

Wetaugust your posts are great on here. Absolutely agree.

I don't think anyone has said that parents of children with SN shouldn't post. I would hope not, they have every right to post.

But sometimes such posts in response to an OP can be rude and verging on abusive from the outset. Any posts like that are going to get people's backs up, no matter who posts them or about what. Attacking posters for giving offence where none was intended or perceived by many others is rude.

Yes. Noone should be rude.

Agreed. Why not just say "don't be rude" instead of the whole do not mention SN thing. The deraoling accusations are vilem

But saying this obviously only refers to nT children so thats all we can discuss IS also excluding some posters.

Probably it's the ones who werent rude but quietly mentioned their child who will feel excluded and hurt now.

Of course people will feel they shouldn't post if when they do they are accused of "lying in wait to derail" and "making it all about them"

Wouldn't you?

Bowlersarm. I am not being sensitive for my own sake.

I will post here anyway

But I know others will be upset by this so wanted to support them.

Xpost. But people aren't going to go back to the early pages when thebun fight began to find posters to praise, and the posters themselves probably haven't thought anything of it, until now, when you have bought it up.

Oh they will. So hope I can help a bit with that.

I don't hate children that squeal - that's a bit extreme!

I do hate the sound they make though. It's like being smacked in the ear if it's shrill enough!

But some people have tried to derail and be down right nasty to the OP and others, and I don't think they are deserving of praise for their posts. Although a number have tried to discuss rationally, and of course that should be treated with respect.

If it's any help, I hadn't actually considered squealing dc as possibly having sn unless very obvious, so it's made me think a bit. And I won't be so quick to judge again.

However, I think the op really wasn't meaning dc who have sn. She meant the annoying brats who are old enough to know better but aren't encouraged/disciplined to have their intruding setting-teeth-on-edge screaming or squealing stopped for the sanity of the general public (or aunts!)