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AIBU to be really upset that Grandparents are moving to be near favourite grandchildren

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betty10k · 18/03/2014 14:02

This might be a long one....
We're very lucky that our in laws live nearby and have my son (19 months) one day a week and the rest of the week he goes to nursery as we both have to work full time to pay the bills. I miss him immensely and wish i didn't have to work 5 days a week and commute but i do. It was softened by the fact that he was with his grandparents once a week and they love having him - always said it was the highlight of their week. He is close to them and i feel so grateful that he has a close relationship with them. Way back when we started talking about having a family they always said they wanted to have him/her once a week, there were ideas about him going to the local primary school which is walking distance from their house and him going back to theirs everyday for his tea. All dreams and all far off i know but my parents moved abroad when i was young so all this was important to me. I'm also an only child so this is probably where some of this unreasonableness and lack of understanding is coming from....?

Everything changed last year when my brother and sister in law + 3 grandchildren (all over 10) moved to the other end of the country (4hours away). Grandparents were distraught and slowly but surely they started dropping the days they could do so they could go up there and see them and stay there. They have a holiday cottage where they can stay. (This obviously was a bit of a pain as we've had to use up our holiday to look after him when they've not been able to) So i suppose you could say he would be better off in nursery all week. But it's just not what we wanted and nor can we afford it.

They got back from 2 weeks staying with brother in law on Sunday. My husband dropped my little boy off at his grandparents this morning as usual and they announced they wanted to move to be near them (4hours away) and would be selling up and obviously wouldn't be able to have our son anymore. Husband is upset but like most blokes probably won't say anything. Although he did say he's not surprised and he always comes last anyway and no'one in his family tells him anything so from this i take it that he clearly does care. Grandparents whole family live in the same area so they won't just be leaving us.

I've now gone from angry to upset. I never thought they'd actually go as when mentioned before they said they wouldn't because we needed them. This is true. But more than anything i'm upset for my son because like my husband he's been put last by them and he adores them. I've got to see them tonight and i don't want to (sounds pathetic i know but i don't deal with confrontation well and will probably cry) What do i do or say? Tell the truth or just let the resentment simmer?

The relationship we have with them will be so different. We don't have much spare time, husband is self employed trying to grow his business and works 6-7 days a week so we will only be able to visit them twice a year at most. We have a small cottage with not much room for visitors whereas they can go and stay with brother in law whenever they like in the holiday cottage they have. Their kids are all over 10 ours isn't yet 2 and hopefully one day we will be able to afford to have another one so i thought they'd want to be here to see them grow up and be a part of that. But i can understand that brother in law's family have more time for them as sister in law doesn't work so life is one long party - family dinners every week etc. (trying not to sound jealous but i am - i'd love to be able to look after my child myself and not work!)

So a very long rambling AIBU which isn't written very well. Can someone give me some advice without making me cry please.

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TheBody · 18/03/2014 15:15

Goblin bags me his twin. I want grounds and a guest floor.

poshme · 18/03/2014 15:19

Betty10k you say you can't go to visit because your DH works long hours. My DH works 6, sometimes 7 days a week, takes very few holidays and is often out in the evenings for work (he's self employed and basically doing 2 jobs).
I go and visit family - both his & mine alone with DCs. 3 hour & 4 hour drives.
Just wanted to point out its not impossible to visit people in your own.

LaGuardia · 18/03/2014 15:20

This obviously was a bit of a pain as we've had to use up our holiday to look after him when they've not been able to look after him

How awful, having to look after you own child Confused

betty10k · 18/03/2014 15:22

The Body -
in your op you mentioned your dc going to their house after school for tea every day? that's really a dream of what family life might be not how it is in reality.

That was their idea when we talked about the future and primary schools etc - so miles away and I know it is a dream of family life. I guess ultimately i crave that family life and i don't have much of it because of our working hours.

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betty10k · 18/03/2014 15:27

poshme my husband is the same on the work front and we've never had a holiday apart from visting family for the odd weekend - the curse of the self employed. + we only have 1 car at the moment which obviously he needs for work. We will find a way and we will visit.

LaGuardia - i've already said that that was a really rubbish comment and it wasn't meant that way - i should have reread my monologue before i hit send as i would have deleted that straight away. I would love to look after my own child everyday but i can't afford to as i have to go to work.

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KeinBock · 18/03/2014 15:28

YANBU to feel the way you do, your reaction is entirely understandable.
That said, your IL's also have every right to make their own decisions about where they live. I'm afraid you'll just have to be brave and accept it.

worsestershiresauce · 18/03/2014 15:35

Betty this isn't about your ds, it is about their quality of life. A lot of people retire somewhere where they will have a better quality of life, as after all they have spent the majority of their lives caring for their children, and want to enjoy their retirement. Perhaps they found looking after your ds for a full day too much. I know my DM wouldn't enjoy having my 12 month old for more than an hour at a time. Small children are full on.

As for your SAHM comment earlier in the thread if I had a £ every time I heard someone say they were going into the office for a rest I'd be wealthy. If your SIL has been at home with 3 she's had one hell of a hard job. I for one don't envy her.

Lots of people have no family child care.

betty10k · 18/03/2014 15:39

worsestershiresauce - i agree i've said the same thing about going into the office for a rest on a Monday!

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Viviennemary · 18/03/2014 15:43

I think it's reaonable that you should feel hurt. But people should be free to make their own choices as to where they want to live.

waltermittymissus · 18/03/2014 15:47

SIL is very pleased they have been encouraging this from day 1. I find that hard to deal with too

Why??

It's no different to you wanting them to stay put, is it?

So you feel hurt that they're 'choosing' BIL and SIL but maybe they just prefer the area, the pace of life etc.

You must try to be happy for them. Tbh this sounds like it's more to do with your resentment and jealousy of SIL than anything else.

I understand it must hurt but do you really think they're picking their other grandchildren over yours??

They might just want to ease off on their general business now that they're older and this is why they've made the decision.

betty10k · 18/03/2014 15:57

waltermittymissus - because despite the fact that i want them to stay put i know that i will say to them that they must do what they want to do whereas SIL keeps showing them houses in the local area and really pushing them to move. SIL and I do get on well despite all this!

I will be happy for them, talking it through with you all has really helped and made me understand their point of view more. I understand that they will have the opportunity to see more of them than they do of us. And i'm pleased to say i'm now totally calm and not tearful so thank you everyone!

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CeliaLytton · 18/03/2014 15:58

There are a few things you can do to make this easier for yourselves.

  1. Put DC into full time nursery now so that it is not so much of a change when they do move.
  1. Accept that this move is what they want, for whatever reasons.
  1. Be grateful for the close relationship that your DS has had up until now (both our families live 4 hours away) and for the love that they have shown him and they enjoyment they have had from him and vice versa.
  1. Add up what you have saved in childcare one day a week for the past x months... That will buy a lot of petrol/train fares to go and visit them Grin
  1. Be generous about this move and don't take it personally.

Losing the relationship you/your DS has with the inlaws at the moment will be hard, as will the loss of childcare, but you have been luckier than most so far. As pp have said, they were going to upset one of their children one way or the other! Be gracious, wish them well and remember that, if it is them you'll miss rather than the childcare, 4 hours is really not that long a journey.

struggling100 · 18/03/2014 16:01

I think people are being way harsh on you, OP.

Firstly, when you work full-time and have to give up all your annual leave for routine childcare, you never get a break. It is a big deal.

Secondly, your in-laws have clearly been a huge part of your family life, and a huge assistance to you. Those two things are separate: emotional and practical. It seems normal to me that you both feel hurt because they're choosing to move away, and that you're worried about the future because life is going to be harder for you now as a result of their decisions. (And it makes it hurt more as it sounds as though your SIL doesn't really need their practical support as much as you do).

I do think that the conditions of life these days mean that grandparents need to think VERY hard about what they can commit to long-term in a family. It's not the same raising kids now as it was thirty or forty years ago - the need for two wages, high house prices and living costs mean families are under so much more financial and practical pressure, so love and care and time from grandparents are very precious resources. To offer a commitment and then to move away to offer it elsewhere is is a very big deal for many families - I know several of my friends who would struggle desperately if they were deprived of intergenerational help suddenly in favour of a sibling.

I'm not saying that grandparents don't absolutely have a right to their own lives and choices (of course they do), but I do think that there is a need for families to think about equity and support and the effects of decisions like this a bit more these days, particularly since many members of the older generation have benefitted massively from the same social changes that are screwing over their children and grandchildren.

betty10k · 18/03/2014 16:12

Struggling100 - thank you for your lovely post. SIL doesn't need their support in the same way we do and she also has her mother up the road so she will have 2 grandma's nearby. But of course i do understand their decision now and all of these things are just details...

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waltermittymissus · 18/03/2014 16:15

I'm glad you're feeling calmer, Betty.

I get that it's a big shock but I'd ease off on your SIL a bit if I were you. It's reading as quite irrational and you'll only cause yourself more grief trying to deal with the resentment.

Fwiw MIL is always sending links to fabulous properties where she lives. I'd rather gouge my eye out with a spoon so I thank her and delete them.

My point is, if they didn't want to move no amount of estate agent brochures would make them!

ReallyTired · 18/03/2014 16:24

It is painful, but prehaps grandparents don't want to be giving support. It may well be that your in laws weren't brave enough to say "no". Prehaps your in laws don't want to give support to anyone. They have done their child rearing and prehaps they need support in their old age. A SAHM has far more time and energy to support aging parents than two people who are working full time. For example would you be prepared to take time off work to take your elderly mother inlaw to a hospital appointment?

A 19 month old child is very needy by nature. Many people find it far more fun to be with an older child who can hold a conversation. Sadly any childcare support is done on grandparent terms. There is no right to intergenerational help. My inlaws live near by and are not in position to help me due to ill health. I have to just get on with it.

Rooble · 18/03/2014 16:37

The thing that occurs to me is that perhaps they need your SIL's support? You don't say how old your PILs are, but if they're suddenly aware that they're slowing down, getting creakier etc, then maybe it makes sense to them to live near a child who is able to help them?
I have a friend who is in a similar position to you, and feeling utterly devastated, but knowing her parents they will have made a logical decision, but failed to communicate it quite epically. Could this have happened in your case too?

Rooble · 18/03/2014 16:37

Oh, cross-post ReallyTired!

cory · 18/03/2014 16:41

The bad news is, this is going to make your life more difficult.

The good news is, it need not ruin your son's relationship to his grandparents unless you decide it will.

When our dc were little, PIL's lived 5 hours away and were really not fit enough to go travelling. We had no car and our eldest was in a wheelchair, but we did still manage regular visit, and those visits were enough to build a genuine and lasting relationship.

KeinBock · 18/03/2014 16:44

Interesting that SIL's mother is just up the road... perhaps MIL is worried that the other granny will supplant her in the other DGC's affections? Could this be behind the move? Some GM's can be quite competitive in this respect - my MIL certainly is :)

betty10k · 18/03/2014 16:47

Grandparents are young and fit - they really do love their days with DC. Yes we would take time off work for them as they got older. We already do all the maintenance on their property etc so we do make the time for them. But like you all say it's their decision and there is nothing we can do about it. I just need to learn to deal with the way I feel about it - hurt and upset.

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ssd · 18/03/2014 16:50

I feel for you op, your inlaws sound like they are being insensitive to you and your family, of course this would hurt

Yanbu

expatinscotland · 18/03/2014 17:00

Hope you can come to terms with this. It sounds like they were between a rock and a hard place.

GertTheFlirt · 18/03/2014 17:01

So the GPs in question have two sons, one you are married to? Have I got that right?

What is the relationship like with your DH?

betty10k · 18/03/2014 17:07

Yes 2 sons 1 of which I'm married to. Good relationship with them he has always been the one they've asked to do everything for them but his older brother has always been the favourite. Even my parents have remarked upon this.

I've left early to go and pick my son up from them so will be seeing them shortly. Hoping not to cry!

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