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To tell Dog owners control you fecking dogs!

397 replies

Wishfulmakeupping · 17/03/2014 10:16

I'll get flamed I don't care. I'm fed up of people letting their dogs run wild just had another dog clamour all over me when I'm walking down the street with a 'sorry' from the owner again this happens to often. Last week a dog off its lead stuck its head near my child pram.
Its simple if you can't control your dog off its lead then keep it on its lead until you get to the park.
I think I'm going to go nuclear next time :(

OP posts:
blondefriend · 23/03/2014 13:53

Truffleoil - I don't mind rats either. Have had them as pets before - very gentle, intelligent creatures.

HappyAgainOneDay · 23/03/2014 14:45

...Yeah like in the Autumn when it's sometimes hard to spot a poop in amongst fallen leaves, I will look for it until I find it. Well, what about taking the dog somewhere else for its walk? Somewhere to enable you to find the unfindable lost poo? Why does it always often have to be a park for a dog walk? What about a couple of miles of pavements? You wouldn't lose the poo then because the dog would be on a lead I hope.

Goblinchild · 23/03/2014 15:02

NW Manchester, LtEve.
Think Failsworth, Oldham, Newtons Heath and Miles Platting.
West Yorkshire, Barnsley, and Doncaster areas.

That's if you want to find a lot of unsupervised dogs, dog poo and dogs with aggressive owners who think it's fun to watch them scare people.

imonaplane · 23/03/2014 15:39

Happy you have completely missed the point I was trying to make and have focused on the fact that I ALWAYS find and bag my dog's poop. You are trying to make me look like a baddie for doing this and I can't understand why. Truffle I have not even hinted that I want everyone to love dogs. If you read my posts I have clearly stated that I understand that some people might dislike or fear dogs and do my best to avoid my dog causing anyone inconvenience. I was trying to make some posters see that not all dog owners are horrid but all I have succeeded in doing is getting the nastiness directed at me.

NurseyWursey · 23/03/2014 15:40

YANBU

But I'd also like to tell members of the public that shrieking and moving out of the way as we're walking towards you, with a lead on, is terribly OTT and even worse when you're with a child who will learn your behaviour.

Mumzy · 23/03/2014 18:24

This is not just a problem in 'rougher' areas we were in Richmond park last month when I witnessed a posh couple hopelessly trying to round up their 3 dogs all off leads. The dogs were barking at and one was trying to bite a horse. The horse rider managed to fend off the dog which subsequently snapped at a mum with her children. The mum shouted 'NO' at the dog and it got the message. Then the stupid dog owner had a go at the mum for 'shouting' at her dog. I reported the couple to the park police who were driving by.

ChasingDogs · 23/03/2014 18:24

Oh fuck it, I can't even be arsed anymore.

Yup, I own a dog. And it's a big dog. I often wear hoodies also. Every now and then I'll have a sneaky cig whilst walking the dog. If you see me out and about then be sure to spit on me and make the sign against the evil eye.

Just don't try and kick/poison my dog, or you'll be shitting your own teeth for a week.

NurseyWursey · 23/03/2014 18:25
Grin
Goblinchild · 23/03/2014 18:43

Are you having an 'OH CHRIST FENTON!' flashback mumzy?

slithytove · 23/03/2014 18:50

Don't like dogs in general.

Don't want to be around dogs. Don't want them jumping at me, sniffing my crotch or kids, wrecking our ball games or picnics, or anything else. All of the above has happened.

They leave me alone, I leave them alone.

YANBU.

Mumzy · 23/03/2014 18:55

Just telling it as it was. I was struck by the dog owner's arrogant and entitled attitude. The majority of dog owners in the park are responsible and their dogs well controlled but the ones that aren't deserve to be pulled up for it same with parents and out of control children.

Missspottydotty · 23/03/2014 18:58

Yanbu

evalyn · 23/03/2014 19:56

Much talking past one another going on here; par for the course, I suppose. But ...

LtEveDallas, you miss the point so spectacularly I can't refrain. The point is not that every single dog owner is ineffectual and uncaring. It's that most - the vast majority of - dog owners (you too? seems so) fail to understand that many of us don't like their dogs and don't want them near us. How can I say it more clearly: keep your dogs away from us, we don't want them near us! I don't think you're all n'er-do-wells or uncaring. I'm sure that most of you are as upstanding as it's possible to be, upstanding-citizen-wise. Many of you, indeed, are more than likely secular or religious saints, I'm sure. It's just that you think you have the right to impose your dogs on the rest of us when you have no such right.

Percentages of toddlers killed by dogs, sure, miniscule. Percentage of toddlers catching toxocariasis from dog shit in public parks, likewise. That's irrelevant to the point. Which is that you might want to take the risk, thinking it sufficiently small, but you have no right to demand that others take that risk with their children. Not hysterical, not hyperbole; you dog owners are plain and simple being unfair in demanding of the rest of us (even if we were in a minority) that we put up with your dogs and these risks to our children.

(Dog shit and the toxocara canis worm, btw: 'picking up' shit in a plastic bag won't necessarily clear the ground where the dog left it. You'd need to wash every nearby blade of grass if in a park. 'Picking up' reduces the risk considerably, sure, but it doesn't eliminate it. So, I'd suggest, keep your dog shit in your own garden. Don't feel you have any right to expose other people to it, even after you've 'picked up' most of it. You don't. Not even you, imonaplane, for all your good intentions. Unless you disinfect every blade of grass around where your dog has shat?; in which case, more apologies.)

I'm not afraid of dogs. I'm allergic to them, it's true; mainly, though, I just don't want them, their smelly coats, their claws and pads, their teeth, tails, stinky breath, slimy wet noses and drooling mouths, or their shit, near me or my family. And you have no right to force your dog on me, be you ever so effectual and caring. Yet that's what you do, yes, you caring effectual people, you fine upstanding citizens - you expect me to put up with your dogs all around the place.

blondefriend: Sure, lots more dogs in restaurants etc. these days. Ugh! and again Yuck! In restaurants?! Could anyone deny that's inconsiderate of others?
However, indeed, if all dogs were kept like - and behave like - guide dogs do, I'd have much less to complain about.

Oh well, enough.

[ imonaplane, I'm sorry to have upset you. Think of it as a robust and frank exchange of views, as the diplomats say; nothing personal, it's only MN.]

ormirian · 23/03/2014 19:59

I like rats too.

And guinea pigs.

Prefer to avoid arachnids where possible so please keep your tarantulas and scorpions on a lead or at least under control.

Thanks

ormirian · 23/03/2014 20:09

I can see your POV evalyn. You hate dogs, you dislike the fact that people own dogs and exercise them in public places, regardless of whether they stick to the rules of good dog ownership. You have every right to your prejudice, just as I have a right to resent kids on scooters.

Thing is though that most people would not believe that your attitude is reasonable. Dogs exist, you have to accept it, you don't have to like it. Ditto me and my unreasonable prejudice against having my ankles grated by scooters.

Life is a series of compromises and accommodations.

HappyAgainOneDay · 23/03/2014 21:02

Oh, Evalyn. What an epic! You got everything just right.

Ormirian "...exercise them in public places.." Yes. Exercise them in public places but why, why, why do they have to poo everywhere as well? If you have a garden, train them to poo there. If you haven't a garden, don't have a dog.

PS. I'll pat some dogs but not others. That does not mean that those that I'll pat will be welcome to jump up at me, slobber and lick. Tricky Woo on the other hand....

shouldnthavesaid · 23/03/2014 21:18

Surely in most public places you have a variety of animal waste - dog, sheep, cat, deer, fox, birds, birds of prey, rabbits, etc etc.

There seems to me very, very little point in sitting disinfecting blades of grass when most parks are full of it - albeit ground down so much you won't see most of it.

Even if you do train the dog to shit in the garden, it's not always going to be entirely possible to stop them when out and about. I take my girl for walks of up to 4 hours long, in that 4 hours she's bound to shit/wee at least once despite having been trained to go in our garden most of the time.

Owllady · 23/03/2014 21:25

Never mind the dog, how many dog walkers need a wee whilst on a walk
?
Dirty filthy dog owners

thedrunkenduck · 23/03/2014 21:29

Why do you have to look at it that owners are OK with it? I have a very excitable puppy who needs walking just as much as other dogs. He pulled me over a few weeks ago and jumped at someone. I was mortified. I didn't do it on purpose- but funnily enough, I was more concerned making sure that I was OK then someone else.

If my dog jumped at a pram or whatever I wouldn't have a problem with someone giving him a kick up the bum. You gotta protect yourself right?

ChasingDogs · 23/03/2014 21:32

I always get at least one good piss in when I'm walking the dog. Of course I'm a lady so I don't cock my leg on trees, I just squat wherever I like.

If it's a really good day then I'll squeeze out a shit too. But only ever behind a tree where I know a runner with "runners shits" has dropped one before me.

Solidarity with the Regular Park Users Mafia*! Or something.

*Don't actually walk my dog in parks. But fuck it, I might start just to annoy random dog haters who will look upon me and my plague-hound and be filled with righteous rage and superiority.

Owllady · 23/03/2014 21:36

As long as no one urinated on the pram, I don't see the problem
Shave your dogs. Sellotape their downstairs before walking
Don't make eye contact with crazy mummies in the park
Job done imo

Owllady · 23/03/2014 21:38

Forcing a shit out?Shock you obviously partake in fishing!

ChasingDogs · 23/03/2014 21:58

I can agree to avoiding eye contact with crazy mummies in the park as I do that anyway. However I want it in writing that I fully reserve the right to wave and make silly faces at toddlers as I make my hasty exit. Their odd-hissy-excited noise combined with jumping up and down on the spot whilst randomly flinging an arm around is the often the highlight of mine and plague-hounds day Grin

RealAleandOpenFires · 23/03/2014 23:32

With regards to dog shit...how about a website (like YPLAC), called:-

"Take Your Dogs Intestinal Shit Home You Twat" or TYDI-SHYT for short.? Grin

Upside:- councils might want to fine the bastards.
Downside:- owners don't give a toss.

moodymai · 23/03/2014 23:41

I don't have a dog but I do carry an ultrasonic dog trainer to use if necessary. It's supposed to stop them coming near you as it emits a high frequency noise.