To tell Dog owners control you fecking dogs!

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I'll get flamed I don't care. I'm fed up of people letting their dogs run wild just had another dog clamour all over me when I'm walking down the street with a 'sorry' from the owner again this happens to often. Last week a dog off its lead stuck its head near my child pram.
Its simple if you can't control your dog off its lead then keep it on its lead until you get to the park.
I think I'm going to go nuclear next time :(

Iv just got home from a lovely walk with my dog, I don't normally trust him off lead as he lacks social graces, but I let him off today to play with a friends dogs and I thought he was wonderful! He ignored other people, politely sniffed a couple of other dogs, and didn't lick any children. But now I'm worried I might of offended someone by letting him run around.

Imonaplane

"..... always pick up poo, even if it takes me half an hour to find it. I try to avoid busy times at our dog friendly park and if I see young children about I put her on the lead."

Half an hour to find it? Were you not around when your dog was defecating? Suppose a child had fallen into it while you were 'looking for it'?

What a revolting lot of people have crawled out from under their rocks to appear on this thread.
The enthusiasm for poisoning, throwing or punching a dog - possibly the sweetest animal on earth - totally disgusts me and most other people I should think.
What is wrong with your lives that you have this unbelievable amount of spite in you and that you are searching so hard to find a reason to let it loose?
I've just taken my girl for a lovely walk, she made some friends (dog and human) brought a smile to many people's faces and we didn't bother a soul. There were lots of other dog walkers out too, along with joggers, cyclists, walkers. Luckily none of them seemed to be bat-shit crazy like some of the posters here.
Some of you need to seek help with your anger.

Dog owner here. Great Dane so need bin bags for clearing up droppings lol

Yadnbu op, there is dog shit on the pavements all round here

Every dog owner should have to have a certificate on basic dog care training and control, dogs should be chipped, tagged, licenced and a sample of their poo DNA tested and held on file by local authority. This can be paid for by said cost of licence.

Whenever any dog shit is found it should be tested and owner issued with a fine.

dreams

Some people seem to be missing the point. Most of us do not hate dogs. What is not acceptable is:

-not picking up dog shit (non-negotiable , doesn't matter where it is/ how far from the path, you pick it up, properly, even if otnis runny)

• do not allow your dog (whether on or off the lead) to approach anybody/their property (picnics/frisbees etc)

• do not allow your dog ( whether on or off the lead) to approach a leashed dog

-only exercise your dog off-leash if he has very reliable recall.

If dog owners stuck to these very simple rules the vast majority of people would be happy.

And others should not approach/allow their children to approach your dog.

Everyone happy. Job done.

Happy Yeah like in the Autumn when it's sometimes hard to spot a poop in amongst fallen leaves, I will look for it until I find it. Evalyn please refer to my previous post where I clearly stated that I always put my dog on a lead when there are small children around so you don't need to ask from consideration from me - it's already there. I note, however, that consideration is not forthcoming from you.

Guinea pigs are possibly the sweetest animals on Earth, kittens.
They potter about, trim the grass, eat your veggie leftovers and purr. When was the last time a guinea pig maimed a stranger, or killed them?

'Anyone who touched my dog would not do it again'
Really? What exactly would you do?
To an infuriated man who was protecting his baby grandaughter against a dog he thought was going to bite her?

What is wrong with your lives that you have this unbelievable amount of spite in you and that you are searching so hard to find a reason to let it loose?

Quite agree Kittens. What a horrible wave of vitriol here. I feel very sad for people who are this cross

Goblinchild - I'll leave that to your imagination

Last week I went for a walk and met a large number of dogs on the Downs.
There was a Newfoundland, a couple of terrier-types, a border collie, several retrievers and some hairy mixed-breed types of varying sizes.
All on leads because it's lambing season, all beautifully-mannered and all with polite and friendly owners who had poo bags at the ready. That's what it's usually like on my walks.
So the ones that are vile are the exception, and deserve my anger because if the majority can have dogs that are obedient, the minority should be made to have the same standards or lose their dog and the right to own one.
I often walk along Beachy Head, many dogs off lead and running free, but with similar owners and good recall.
Why is expecting this as the norm. and being furious when it isn't, such a surprising thing?

Goblin I agree 100% with your last post. What I find unacceptable is the spite unleashed at ALL dog owners when the majority of us are responsible, caring people.

I just see a long list of complaints by people who want to be left alone by dogs, and many anecdotes of instances when they weren't, and tha anger they feel as a result.
Rather like complaining about walking through Mancester on a Saturday night, with the over-friendly, pissed, loudly commenting males who like to make sure that you know they exist.
Mixed in with the dangerous ones who feel that you being out and about is an invitation to grope or assault or rape.
Doesn't make you hate all men, just the ones who screw up your walk, make you uncomfortable or afraidor angry.
'Wossup darling? Only having a laugh, you frigid cow'

The problem is tarring everyone with the same brush. I very much doubt that posters here would allow their dogs to harass the general public and leave shit everywhere. However you read plenty of MN posts along the lines of "I wish dog owners weren't sub-human twats so inconsiderate" or "your family pet dangerous beast is disease ridden and filthy and you are the same by association".

It's offensive. Those who feel unfairly victimised will therefore become defensive. Sadly dog owners seem to be the new smokers- one small element of who they are defines them as a human being. Replace "dog owner" or "smoker" or "overweight" with "pakistani", "black" or "immigrant" and cop on to whether or not the vitriol in your post is really deserved or not.

Hint: It isn't.

You met at utter twat who happened to be a twat with a dog. It doesn't make all people who own dogs twats. Not every twat requires a dog in order to be a twat. The majority of twats are able to exhibit twattish behaviour of legendary proportions regardless of whether or not they are the proprietors of a domesticated canid.

Guinea pigs are boring as f*ck. I know, I have two. My dog on the other hand is a real member of our family who gives back to us far more than we give to him. He's well behaved, calm and totally uninterested in other people. Although I do have to admit that his recall isn't what it was as he's now deaf as a post. However as he never approaches anyone who doesn't have a dog it's never been a problem.

MN seems to be a bit of a parallel universe when it comes to dogs as it seems most posters have had terrifying encounters with rabid beasts when in real life I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain of that....

That's one of the interesting things about this site though, I constantly encounter people who think and do things I've rarely or never encountered amongst RL friends and acquaintances.
It doesn't mean they are lying, just that we are unlikely to meet or talk other than on a forum.

imonaplane, I'm sorry to have upset you, as it appears I have. But - and this applies to all the other posters who find 'hate' and 'spite' in various non-dog-loving posts - the upset seems, sadly, necessary in the context of this discussion. This is because you dog lovers find it so difficult to see others' point of view.

To you, it seems irrational, unnatural, mean, spiteful, hateful, when someone finds what you see as a lovely animal to be not lovely at all. But we're all different. And this difference has consequences for how we should behave. That applies, I want to emphasise, to all of us - you dog lovers too. Dogs, in their place, fine. But I really don't like your pets at all. And, I keep reading about pet dogs that have killed - yes, that's killed! - unsuspecting toddlers. And I know about toxocariasis (do you?) and why it's important to keep dogs out of toddlers' play areas. So I want dogs - yes, all dogs, whether on a lead or not - kept away from me and my DCs and DGCs.

It does seem, ime, difficult to convince dog-owners of mine and my family's right to a dog-free life. Hence the possibly ott manner of expression of some of my posts. I write in support, though, of the OP's 'nuclear' reaction to dogs and their owners. Dog owners: ask yourself why we non-dog-lovers seem to hate you so much. It's because of your pets, obviously, and the way some of you think they have a right to impinge on other people.

If I had a pound for every time a dog owner told me, 'He's only being friendly', or 'Don't worry, she's loveable really', I'd be a rich evalyn. It's just that it's time to tell you all that I don't care if your animal is friendly or how much you love her. I just really, really, no really don't like your animal. Keep it away from me and my family. Thank you.

Thanks, imonaplane, for your consideration. I wish your dog and yourself long life and happiness. And I truly hope the lead you keep your dog on is sufficiently short to keep it away from people like me.

As for those cats that sneak around my garden and kill birds and other wildlife: well, I suppose that's a different matter. (I do like birds, though not pet ones.)

What evalyn said

evalyn there's just no pleasing you is there. Even when "thanking "me for my consideration you have to stick a bit of a boot in. "Sufficiently short to keep it away from people like me" That's just being petty and nasty. It seems that even when (like me) dog owners are being responsible and considerate, it's still not enough. You seem to be forgetting that I and many like me have just as much right to enjoy our dogs (in a responsible manner) as you do to not want interaction. But that wasn't my original point. My point was that dog owners are subjected on this site to insults and that is not fair. How would you feel if doing something you enjoyed attracted the same horrible comments. I (and everyone I know with a dog) do not find it difficult to see others points of view - I completely accept that a lot of people do not like or are frightened of dogs and yes I accept that a tiny percentage harm children. I am also well aware of toxocariasis - I have three children of my own.

imonaplane I am a dog lover to my bones, but I can empathize with people who hate dogs. There are a lot of people who would no sooner go near a dog than you or I would go near a rat. And a lot of dog owners have this idea that their dog is so amazing that they will convert the most ardent dog hater. It tends to put non-dog lovers off of dog-lovers.

I think we have two ends of a spectrum here and also a great swathe of people in the middle (i.e. me) It's only those that feel really really strongly about this subject post continually.

I love dogs. However, I don't want one (I'm too selfish and it's too much like hard work for me). As much as I like dogs (some - not all - much like children I only like well behaved ones ) I loathe dollops of poo and inconsiderate owners . There is a middle ground and those that think live and let live.

I have only been frightened by a dog once when it went for me and I was about 11 years old and it taught me to be careful with dogs because they are or can be unpredictable animals.

My DCs were desperate for us to have a dog but after looking after someone's guinea pigs for a whole summer and the kids doing fuck all after the novelty wore off, I knew it would end up as just me in the house exercising and looking after a dog and I was too busy holding down a career and bringing up children to do that.

I do know how much pleasure dogs bring to people's lives - I visit someone in an old peoples home and once a week a gentle labrador comes in and all the old dears eyes light up - it is very therapeutic.

All this thread is about is LIFE. There are twats around and there are considerate people, that's all.

I would like to know the names of the towns were posters live that have dirty smelly snarling dangerous dogs outside, unleashed, uncontrolled every minute of every day. If you have come across this very single time you have set foot outside your house. If you have trodden in dog shit every single day. If every single dog owner you have ever come across has been ineffectual, uncaring and said "oh he's only being friendly" as their dog tries to eat your child, then I understand your ire and your wish for all dogs to be destroyed/muzzled/leashed.

But if that isn't the case. If these horrible things have happened to you once or twice, or even once or twice a month when you go outside every day, then maybe you are overreacting just a little

Now I could be wrong. These places with feral dogs and owners may well exist. But really? How does that correlate with the number of dogs in the UK, the number of dog related injuries and the number of dog related deaths? The actual percentages are miniscule.

Hyperbole doesn't help, I mean the having a pound thing? If we say being a millionaire is rich for example - Well I work with dogs, I volunteer at a rescue, but I certainly haven't met a million people, or dogs...

I would most definitely step in dog poo every single day, several times over if I didn't watch my step. London.

I'm sorry Evalyn but there will always be dogs as we are generally a dog-friendly society. In fact the number of dogs in certain areas (such as restaurants, shops and schools) is only likely to increase as we train more dogs to be disability companions etc and you may need to sit next to one on a train or stand behind them in the supermarket. We have dogs in our school on a regular basis to drug sniff bags. I'm sorry you seem to have so many bad experiences but I don't think that is the experience of most of the rest of us. No one is asking you to love their dog but maybe accept that they are part of our society.