To Think Buying Your Unborn Baby A Golliwog

[NurseyWursey]

and posting the photo on facebook, is in bad taste?

It just seems a bit to me.

Ralph black women can still be ignorant, indifferent to history and racist - sorry to break it too you but 'I'm black' isn't a trump card to excuse bigotry

Never said It was a trump card.

When you see a Gollywog you get all hyped up and it's all racist, you wouldn't buy it. Your Choice.

I see a Gollywog I see a doll I had as a child, I have fond memories of Gollywog and I'd most likely buy it. I'd let my dc play with it if he wanted.

oh for the love of CHEESE *Parkin8 it isn't the historical ownership that is the issue (we collected the Robinsons figures) it's the refusal to look back on that and say 'opps look at us - we where racist in the 70's and wasn't that bad in retrospect' and sorry but anyone buying one now is a racist cock

Incidentally if you ever visit the museum of slavery in Liverpool you may well see our Golli collection - that is where my mother donated them to when she woke up and realised what a big pile of racist shite they where

Ralph your not the only one who's parents didn't sit down and talk to them about history, our school didn't take us to museums either, I can only remember visiting the zoo... Like you I dont see that gollywogs are racist, it's a modern phenomena... They weren't 10yrs ago but some people seem to think they are now. It's a bit like the N word - it's banned for everyone except black rap artists then it's ok to say it all the time...

Parking I agree with you too, some people are offended by things on behalf of others, how does that work then? It's like a pissing contest I.e. I can be offended more than you, oh no you can because I'm offended by... And on and on it goes, makes a mockery of the things which are truly offensive - it's PC bullshit! In our local council we aren't allowed to use the word Christmas now because it's offensive to some religions as they don't celebrate it, we need to call it winter holidays or something ridiculous. These other religions don't find it offensive it's just someone has taken it upon themselves to believe a group of people will be offended by the word Christmas and because they think these people will be offended then we should all think that - I've got my own brain thanks and can think for myself tyvm.

For me it's a good childhood memory. Yes I get all the race stuff about it now but I really can't look at them and get offended our upset. Didn't ever see the race stuff as a child and having owned one as a child amazingly I've grown up fairly stable and not racist. I know people will disagree but I just think this thread is very ott.

hahahahaha OMG somebody woke up the Daily Mail

'them Muslims banned Christmas' blah blah blah - totally untrue bullshit perpetuated by racist idiots

brilliant - if this where racist bingo I would have won myself £10

oh and I am offended on my own behalf not anyone elses thanks very much

Peggy we must of had the worst rather fun childhood ever. I visited the Zoo too! Never a museum or was taught history by my parents, never spoke about the news or life. Personally couldn't think of anything worse then being made to have a conversation about history with my parents at the age of 9. I wanted to be out with my friends having fun

It's true, being lived by a child renders something completely inoffensive and definitely Not Racist

Hang on.

ahhhh ignorance is bliss

enjoy being deliberately thick

I am off to bed x

*loved

If only my parents had taught me to spell.

oh and hahahaha Tethers spot on x

Have a nice sleep. Hope you don't have nightmares about those ever so scary and racist dolls

Where have all these stupid people come from?

trust me - the 'dolls' are the least scary thing on this thread

Oh dear, the hard of thinking really are out in force tonight.

Totally agree that anyone buying one now is a racist cock, but why should someone apologise for having one in the 60s? That's sheep mentality and not genuine. It also insinuates that anyone buying one then secretly thought they were buying a horrendous caricature of a back person and were being horrifically and purposely racist- I am sure some did yes, but some will have not. That to me is again looking to label those people who are genuinely pleasant and not bigoted as racist- I'm still not sure what the agenda is with this. It's like we are in competition to see who is as right on as possible by trying to make others appear to be bigoted in comparison. Not helpful when we still live in a society that still holds racists.

An object can be racist, even if its owner doesn't realise it.

If its owner insists on buying more once it has been pointed out that the object is racist, then they must learn to be ok with being thought of as a massive racist.

Incidentally this forum brings out the daily fail in me at times- the predictable constant presumption and often personal accusation that you are thick, stupid or simply fabricating anecdotes if you do not follow the prescribed liberal stance on all matters is decidedly opposite to liberalism imo.

My daughter was given a gollywog by older relatives. I'm can't bring myself to throw it out because it is a gift and was given with love. It made me feel a bit sick when we opened it as to hw on earth we could keep it in the house when all our neighbours are Afro-Caribbean.

Can I somehow subvert its gollywogness? Can I make it ok and turn it back into just a rag doll and cut it away from its history?

All this banging on a about a doll and who is more racist really is just odd. Great that we are inclusive and most people don't even think about race etc. but for people to be so aggressive and shout racism and defriend people on fb just for the mere mention of these dolls is weird and is a very apologist attitude

Golliwogs are racist! I'm in my mid 30's and have always known them to be so. As others have said its the intention behind them which is where the problem lies. I find them very offensive.
my mum always spoke to me about history and specifically black history as this wasn't included on the curriculum when I was at school.

Sorry meant to say its the original intention behind their creation that makes them a racist object.

And oh if life were so easy to just ignore racism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of discrimination and it would just magically cease to exist. That is no way to challenge bad behaviour. live in the real world.

Threads like this make me really want to go out there and buy a golliwog, post a pic on FB and hope all the professionally-offended would de-friend me... Can't help to think of how much happier I am just by choosing what I get offended at (very little) and who can offend me (only people I truly care for). I wish everyone else did the same, the World would be a much better place.

Aurynne. Why do you think what you choose to get offended by is any different or more worthy than what others get offended by?