To think that ALL smoking (cigarettes and e-cigs) should be banned in public places?!

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I've been sat in my GP waiting room with my little girl waiting for my appt and in walks a lady puffing away on an e-cig. She hasn't put it away and is just sat smoking it.

AIBU to think this is rude and that, just because it's not an actual cigarette, the same rules should apply, mainly because it's stinking the whole waiting room out!?!

Gruel? Don't kids like that??

I've got a tank full of Brussels sprouts.

I must be a teen again, as I'm vaping pineapple (fruit), banana milkshake (definitely a kiddy thing) and the occasional butterscotch (sweetie) at the mo. So I can't POSSIBLY be in my 50's if I like those flavours can I?

sackcloth and ashes yeah I think that might satisfy them.

I know what they want us to have - burnt tobacco with additives flavour, with a bit of ash mixed in!

Maybe they also think we should douse ourselves in perfume that smells the same......

I've never even seen anyone with an e cigarette . Where are they all?
Quite fancy trying one out actually.

They are all sneakily vaping in Wetherspoons, tesco and your local GP surgery moondog

Being harried off the streets by people who think they should be banned because they don't like looking at them Moondog

My workplace follows the BMA guidelines, which are to treat eCigs the same as ordinary ones, and this gets applied both to staff and customers.

To quote The use of e-cigarettes may undermine smoking prevention and cessation by reinforcing the normalcy of cigarette use in public and workplaces

Staff don't seem that bothered. Going by the verbal abuse I got last time I had to ask someone to stop, customers seem a bit more irritated by it (although tbh I can count on one hand the amount of people who I've seen try it) I'll admit I don't like it, but that's mainly because first glance, from a distance it generally does look like someone's lit up on the salesfloor.

The only justification for banning smoking in enclosed spaces was passive smoking. If "someone might copy them" is now considered a danger then it's time to ban people who drink where other adults might see them or worse, children.

I'd like to tell you that nobody has ever had a sneaky crap on our salesfloor, but sadly I'll be lying

God yes. Loathe all of this prissy lecturing. There are irritatingly sanctimonious signs up in parks around here exhorting people to 'let tiny lungs breathe'. It enrages me that public money spent on this crap. In same vein, my kids were sent home with 'bacco busters' paraphernalia.
I sent it all back with strongly worded letter of complaint.
Soon people will be arrested for even thinking about fags .

Vaping spearmint right now. Fully recommend the flavour - it's my first 'flavour' other than tobacco since I quit smoking. Enjoying it very much.

Any good flavour recommendations? I like the light, freshness of the spearmint.

I'm smoking mine everywhere until somebody tells me its not allowed.
I had one on the train last night and nobody official said anything, the ticket collector saw me.
Somebody tutted behind me, so I waited until dd was talking to her friend in front of us, leaned back and told her to go fuck herself. That gave her something to tutt about.
I am not normally one for confrontation, but it wasn't a smelly one and I didn't sit there puffing only had a couple of pulls.

Downside of having display toilets Coruskate - some joker always finds it amusing to use them (even with plastic screwed over the top)

Hi Innogen I have been vaping since November. My absolute fav flavour is Liberty Flights' Caramel apple pie

morethanpotatoprints that is hilarious! I imagine you vapng in a most ladylike manner and then saying that hahahahaha!

Pipkinspal, it's the action of putting a device to your mouth and sucking or blowing

Like playing a recorder - which lots of primary school children do?
Like breastfeeding - which lots of babies do?
Like using a straw?

What people are objecting to is that a way has been found around the smoking ban, so nicotine addicts don't have to suffer withdrawal. A bit like coffee addicts don't have to suffer withdrawal. A bit like sugar addicts don't have to suffer withdrawal.

Let's face it, addiction is disgusting and addicts should be punished.

But, also looking at reality, you can't actually do without the tax smokers pay on those fags - which are actually dangerous.

"Like playing a recorder - which lots of primary school children do?
Like breastfeeding - which lots of babies do?"

Purlease, you really try to compare sucking on a nicotine stick to breastfeeding or playing the recorder?

If you feel the need to vape, vape away, (just not in my office, GP waiting room, bus, or in front of my kids etc, you get the gist) - but really, stop pretending that it's a cessation device pr that you've kicked a habit. It's not and you haven't. Because there's no intention to stop using it. And stop pretending that manufacturers only look to current smokers as potential users. They don't. Stop pretending that vaping is sticking two fingers up to big tobacco. It isn't.

If you can't cope walking around the super market, sitting in the GP's waiting room or the bus without having to vape, you're having an addiction problem. Stop comparing it to drinking coffee. I hardly ever see people drinking coffee whilst walking around the super market, or waiting for the GP or sitting on the bus.

Widow we know we have an addiction problem, I don't think anyone here has suggested we don't. However we've found a way that helps us with the non-lethal elements of the addiction that is virtually risk free. E-cigs mean that literally millions of people who wouldn't have been able to quit inhaling all the dangerous chemicals found in smoke (not the nicotine please note) have been able to replace that with something that is according to current research around 1000 times safer, and at the same time have eliminated any potential harm to others around them.

I don't happen to vape anywhere I wouldn't have smoked in public, though my never-smoker sister who completely loathes the smell of smoke is happy for me to vape in her house. I have vaped in pubs etc. that have indicated that they are OK with it, mainly because as an ex-smoker I don't want to be made to stand with existing smokers and re-acquire that miasma of stinkiness I've managed to get rid of. Note I didn't say as an ex nicotine addict because I know I'm not, but I'm definitely an ex-smoker.

But actually there is no reason why vapers shouldn't be able to indulge wherever they want apart from some people's ickyness about seeing something that in their own minds they associate with smoking. Well I get an icky feeling when I see someone picking their nose & eating the bogeys in public, and am potentially caused actual harm as well as icky feelings if someone insists on repeatedly sneezing without a tissue next to me on public transport. But because those aren't associated in people's minds with something else then they are OK.

The reason you find people here reacting so badly to being told there should be as many if not more restrictions on vaping as there are on smoking is because if many of the incentives to vape are taken away (harder to get, more expensive, have to jump through more hoops, fewer places we can vape) then we know fewer people will switch to vaping from smoking. The current new EU directive is actually stricter on vaping products than on traditional tobacco products, makes then have stricter packaging requirements than bleach, and are designed to strangle any innovation in the market. They have even written the directive in such a way that the market is likely to be limited to e-cigs that LOOK like traditional cigarettes, and prevent the use of systems that look very different (and are therefore less likely to be associated with real smoking)

Reet just gone for my 20 jps superkings and they're a lower price but only have 19 in the box.

Will they do that to all of them I wonder and then raise the price as normal?

Fuckers.

That should make the frothers happy I suppose

What a lot of to do over nothing.

These anti smoking and anything to do with it people will find something wrong with whatever you do, even though vaping doesn't affect them at all. Although I'd be interested to know if they also object to people trying to give up smoking chewing nicotine gum or wearing a patch.

After all we're just addicts and should be punished......

What about people who use nicorette inhalers?? They mimic smoking, do they normalise smoking??