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To think that P&C spaces in supermarket car parks

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Braganza · 20/02/2014 08:19

AIBU to think that where there is a pedestrian pavement down the middle of a supermarket car park, it would make far more sense to have the parent and child parking in a well lit area further away from the entrance. This would mean that the spaces would not get clogged up by drivers without children too lazy to find a space, and in some car parks could be in an area with less traffic.

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curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:10

No, I don't go home, as I said, people manage.

But it makes life a lot easier.

I can't see to my 3 year old properly if I've got my 7 month old in a sling, it doesn't work.

IamInvisible · 20/02/2014 17:10

I did not suggest turning all P&C spaces into disabled spaces, maybe try re-reading my post!

By law 6% of the parking spaces have to be for Blue badge holders, there is no such law for P&C spaces.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 20/02/2014 17:11

It was me who mentioned it.

As I was preempting someone coming along and using it.

I think some posters are being very disingenuous in complaining about other posters being huffy. .when they know damn well its because they themselves are being goady.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 20/02/2014 17:11

Me who mentioned "SN brigade".

ziggiestardust · 20/02/2014 17:12

If they'd been goady they've been deleted.

gordyslovesheep · 20/02/2014 17:12

I don't know - how do you see to your 3 year old and baby normally?

Ziggy private car parks are required to make 'reasonable provision' under the Equalities Act

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:13

There's no law, but a lot provide them because some people find the logistics of shopping with prams / carseats / numerous small children difficult.

It's very helpful.. I love them. And so should the people next to me who don't get their cars hit by doors as I'm trying to squeeze carseats in and strap in a toddler.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 20/02/2014 17:13

Theres outright goading and subtle goading.

gordyslovesheep · 20/02/2014 17:14

opps - posted a bit soon, I imagine most local authorities, when granting planning permission for supermarkets etc will have a 'quota' for disabled provision - maybe 1 space for every 20 normal sized ones....

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:14

By parking in a P&C SPACE!! Grin

gordyslovesheep · 20/02/2014 17:15

if you are hitting car doors you need to be more careful - that's nasty for other drivers and not necessary

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:18

Gordy...

Lets say that I park in a space at the back of Sainsbury's... No cars around me, amazing.

I shop.

I get back to the car, some annoying fucker person has parked close to me, so I try to open the door a little to get the carseat in.

Nope, doesn't fit.

Can I get it in the other side?

No.

So I open the door as wide as possible and squeeze the carseat in.

and they're lucky I don't key it too

See? P&C spaces are essential Wink

MollyHooper · 20/02/2014 17:21

That's unlikely to happen though.

Really bad luck if it did.

gordyslovesheep · 20/02/2014 17:21
  1. don't take the car seat, or
  2. put both children in trolly
  3. reverse car out a bit
  4. put kids in

I managed with 3 door, 5 doors, MPV's, a mini and a 4X4 to never damage other peoples cars

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:24

And here it is, there's always one!

I managed to do it with 12 newborns, a 2 seater car, one leg and an eyepatch, and we didn't have arms or trolleys in those days!

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:24

Molly, it happens a lot. Seriously.

Sirzy · 20/02/2014 17:25

In 4 years of transporting DS around I have never been in a position of being unable to get him into the car. My sister hasn't had the problem in 5 years.

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:26

Well Sirzy, you and your sister are very lucky. I don't know a single parent it hasn't happened to.

Maybe it's just busier where I live?

Sirzy · 20/02/2014 17:28

Or you are very unlucky? I have been to plenty of very busy places. I park my car in the centre of the space and strangley I can always get into it when I get back to it!

ziggiestardust · 20/02/2014 17:29

I have had something like that similar happen to me recently; luckily DS is 3 so I got him to get in the other side, climb over the other seats and get in his, then I kneeled in the passenger seat and clipped him in. All because some thoughtless fucker had properly boxed me in Hmm

Like I say, I don't tend to use p&c because DS is fine on his feet and can do the odd scramble if there isn't enough space to open his door. But pita if I was pregnant or had younger kids.

Still annoying though! And that's why p&c are provided for parents who need it (and if you feel you do, then that's fine; I guess it's a confidence thing with a lot of people too, if curious said her dd isn't good with walking, then that would knock your confidence), and why I think there should be more. Someone also mentioned cars have gotten bigger too; that's true as well.

IamInvisible · 20/02/2014 17:29

DS1 is 19, DS2 is 17. We have parked in varying places, never have we been unable to get them in the car.

ziggiestardust · 20/02/2014 17:30

And so pointless saying 'get rid of the p&c spaces!' Because that's never going to happen, because this is a society that likes to make things easier.

curiousgeorgie · 20/02/2014 17:31

Maybe because at 19 and 17 they're more than able to get themselves in the car? Wink

ziggiestardust · 20/02/2014 17:31

I remember me having to do the back seat scramble into my car seat when I was a kid, so it does happen!

gordyslovesheep · 20/02/2014 17:33

hang on Curious why are you allowed to use examples from your life and other people are not? Massive double standards on your part there

you can justify you NEED for P+C spaces but other people can't argue against your point using real examples

You are being very rude and it's not necessary

If I had my door dinged by somebody in a supermarket I would be upset - therefore I make sure I treat other peoples cars with respect

it's not hard