To think that P&C spaces in supermarket car parks

[Braganza]

AIBU to think that where there is a pedestrian pavement down the middle of a supermarket car park, it would make far more sense to have the parent and child parking in a well lit area further away from the entrance. This would mean that the spaces would not get clogged up by drivers without children too lazy to find a space, and in some car parks could be in an area with less traffic.

No, curious you made it about disabled spaces when you were moaning that disabled spaces were always empty!

Not moaning, I don't care if they're empty.

but if they are nowhere near the doorway babies may get wet or damp or a bit cold or wake up or make noise etc etc

I think getting rid of them all together is the most sensible option suggested

iaminvisible higher, not highest. If you're basing it purely on economic factors, families with a disabled member are much more likely to live in a low income household (29% v 19%, Papworth Trust), so presumably spend commensurately less than able-bodied parents with toddlers. But as I said, I don't see why you want to disadvantage one group unnecessarily to benefit another. It makes economic sense for supermarkets to offer the spaces, so even with your ablist discrimination I think they will continue to do so.

molly I didn't see that particular post, but I'm sure the poster was just asking. All that needed to be said was 'maybe there's a higher demographic of disabled people in your area and they're responding to a need'. I said that several times in my posts about my area. I bet what they got was a sarcastic and huffy response.

I think it's okay to ask stuff like that. Why isn't it alright to talk about it?

Well, moving them to the back would be fine, as children and babies have blankets / coats / carseats. As mentioned up thread. A hundred times.

But I see what you were trying to say. not in the least

WTF @ ablist discrimination!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell are you on about??

ablist discrimation - wanting to turn all the p&c spaces to disabled as they suit your needs better. There is no need to discriminate, but your suggestion was to do just that.

I think it was a joke? Irony? Sarcasm?

Lost on you people

Do stores have to provide an allocation of disabled spaces? Is it a law? If so, why don't some smaller shops have them?

Yes, to the back of beyond is a marvellous idea.

yes because it must be 'abalist' to provide all bar 5% of the car parking space to abled people

you CHOOSE to take the carseat out because it suits you - wheelchairs are less optional

leave the seat where it is, buy a sling - job done

Ablist discrimination?

I don't know whether to laugh or hyperventilate.

Again Gordy, how can I carry my hypermobile toddler as well as my baby in a sling? I'm not an octopus

No molly, it didn't turn out like that. Around 13:15, the tone of some of the posts started to turn and get quite huffy. The trouble is once that happens, even when people come in and ask genuine questions, they get ripped up for arse paper because people are hyped up.

Good god, 13.15?

What a waste of time !!

simple - park car near trolly park - get trolly, add toddler, carry baby - job done

I have 2 children with behaviour issues - again you learn to adapt - because you wont always get a space - ergo you have to be able to cope without one - or do you seriously go home if there isn't one?

I don't understand about ablist (sp?) discrimination. What are you talking about, what is that?

Also, do places have a legal obligation to provide X amount of space to disabled bays?

Put the toddler in the trolley

Not sure I like the phrase 'SN brigade'.

Whether it's the case or not, it makes you sound as though you don't know have any personal experience of SN and view the people who speak up about it as a pita.

Braganza.

Are you sure you understand the concept of P&C spaces.

They are not like disabled spaces which people need they are there for convenience no matter how people want to spin it.

Do you get that?

Surely you would put your toddler in the trolley as you do now curious

'SN brigade' is an offensive term. I thought that was cleared up.

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