To start a new thread about bollards on the Isle of Wight

[Mrsdavidcaruso]

OK new thread will post on this after 5pm when bollards are up

Agree that ignoring best at this stage, such a crowd of wankers from the LL to Bin Lady. Hope you are happily planning your lovely new garden and thanks for all the updates.

Evening Mrs C

The LA wrote back and no. Told them that he has seen the documentation and our buying the land was totally above board and that as agents for the LL they have been in contact with him all the way and the LL by reducing the rent has admitted that he was in the wrong

Action to take if I were in your DH's shoes:

1. Date time-stamped log of all incidents of verbal abuse/disorderly behaviour up to now (use threads to help you) and any from hereon in
2. Place in file/soft copy file
3. Take photos of your bollards and cars in current condition and place in file/soft copy file
4. Place all your solicitors' stuff in said file/scan into soft copy file (I like all my stuff on paper but appreciate I am a dinosaur)
5. Ring the letting agent tomorrow and ask for copies of their correspondence to tenants/in particular the above letter as you are being harrassed and need to know ad verbatim what has been sent out.

You need planning permission presumably for any outhouse/shed/conservatory but you don't need any to fence off or put down grass do you?

1. I would not pay for cctv per se - I would pay for a fake camera and a cctv sign though.

www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/fake-cctv

Wow. Pigletjohn was so spot on in the last thread when he advised fence & billboard to direct all enquiries to solicitor for first few months.

OMG what entitled wankers. Hope they get the message soon mrsdavid, and realise what total tools they are being. Much sympathy and to you in the meantime.

Like the story of you and your DH though- your 5 year old self obviously had a good eye for potential

Sorry MrsDC that they are giving you stress, let your DH look after you

If it makes you feel any better, these threads have made 10,000s of people happy all around the world. If there was a 'thread of the year' it would be a very hot contender.

Sorry they are being arses, but try to disengage.

I would however speak to the local police for advice, and if there are any further incidents of aggro I would phone them.

At least they are tenants and there is a good chance some of them may move once their tenancy agreements are up. Would be worse if they owned the property.

How soon can you get a fence up? Have planning dept confirmed that you need permission to change the use from parking to garden? I would be surprised if you did, but I am no expert. I always thought it was the other way round because of the cumulative effect of rainwater running off and adding to the drains systems.

I presume it's that prescriptive right of way (or whatever it's called) that they're looking at.
If so then people need to have been parking there for 20 years plus (not necessarily the same people for all that time either).
I'm not sure on the details. Best look into it.

Patchouli, at this point I think the OP doesn't need to look into it as the letting agent has told the tenants they don't have a case. If a solicitor's letter does arrive, she can look at it then. I think the chance of this happening is very low.

I would inform the police and then tell the LA that due to the ongoing verbal abuse and harrassment you have done so.

I would also write to the tenants setting out that their LL has never had ownership of the land and has never been in a position to charge them for access to it. Tell them that they were given ample warning to remove their vehicles and that due to their complete disregard of the notice to quit trespassing on your property and ongoing verbal abuse you are not prepared to consider renting the space to them to park on (not that you ever were but they don't need to know that). Post it through their doors with a copy to the LA. Don't send it via the LA in case it either doesn't get there or the tenants get given edited highlights of it.

Then disengage.

If you don't want to involve the police I'd still recommend contacting them any and every time you get any hassle. Explain the situation and ask for an incident number. They don't need to come out but I'd definitely get it all logged

Hope you are Ok OP. Come back and update us when you can, we'll get worried!!

Any more issues with Bin lady, kick her in the fanny x

:(

I hope you're getting a bit of relaxation MrsDC and there have been no more 'visits' from the tenants. I know that "Mr MrsDC" will be there to field them when he is able.

Are you able to put up a 'no trespassing' sign of some sort at the front of your drive or front garden to stop them from coming to your door?

And maybe see that the LA has your DH's phone number for any future phone calls?

I think your garden planning should include one of these.

Sarahandmallard True - but neighbours incl loonybin lady would have recognized mrs C's car anyway - so the enquiry from loonybin lady would have gone Why is she parking there? ad infinitum or stalking OP as to how she got preferential treatment.
At some point OP would have admiited land was hers then there would have been about lack of transparency. Plus unless the solicitors no. went direct to BIL it would have cost legal fees for x amount of enquiries.
But fencing is a good idea regardless as it takes away the perception that there are 5 'unused' spaces being 'flaunted' (Or however many) and that the functionality is now garden rather than car park although in mrs C's shoes i'd be tempted to rent them out in the short term free to my mates just for the craic

enforces idea that the functionality is now garden

Can I just say, I am a bit of a parking thread attendant.

It was just a guess that BILs uncle was the sheriff, I dont know this.

I hope all goes well.

Hails the islanders, and takes the ferry off.

OP, I know nobody can say for sure, but I rather think this is all hot air and tantrums.
Tell the LA that you don't want to hear any more about it unless absolutely necessary. If anyone approaches you or DH directly, a very cool 'well, I'll see you in court then - but I will ask for costs to be awarded against you' will do - and then walk away.
If anyone comes to your home, then enough is enough and you really should contact the police - you've put up with enough now.
This WILL all blow over.

plough.

^^ What he said again

And a big fence.

the enquiry from loonybin lady would have gone Why is she parking there? ad infinitum or stalking OP as to how she got preferential treatment

but Mrsdc's space was always hers, & nothing to do with this

(in fact when Mr Mrsdc cracked & let slip in the face of "you won't be able to park there much longer" that he was the purchaser I did go DUH! a bit, because all he had to say to fend her off at that point was "oh really? yours has been sold? bad luck! we're ok though, this space is ours - we bought it when we bought the house")

Except that MrDavid is now parking there too, having given up his rented garage from over the road to his BIL (I am unsure how I can remember this much detail about an ongoing MN thread...)

Hi sorry been asleep.

DH has been down the pub with the nice tenant, it seems that one or two thought that we owned the land, leased it to the LL and then changed our minds and took it back - yeah I know they have all been told the full story but thats what a few think - BTW I now know bin ladies name and she is as much of a pain in the house (having a go at people for leaving things in the communal areas etc)

So thats why a few having been nasty they thought we had done the dirty on them

Still I am not worrying about it tonight thanks all for the support and for reading my threads

I'm sure nice tenant will soon put them straight

Sounds like many people would like to see bin lady move on!!!

Sleep well. How long until due date?