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to believe, and be heartbroken by Woody Allens step-daughters testimony

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fromparistoberlin · 03/02/2014 09:01

kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/an-open-letter-from-dylan-farrow/

I read this last night and it just about broke my heart

I believe her, and I am just so saddened by it

How the hell did he not get prosecuted

brave brave girl, and I feel awful as I have watched and enkoyed his films, even knowing of this murky tale in the background

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OpalQuartz · 03/02/2014 21:38

So when Mia and Woody began dating, Soon Yi was 9. Hmm

Backinthering · 03/02/2014 21:45

Fromparistoberlin, not even his stepdaughter. His daughter. He adopted her Sad

wantmyboobsback · 03/02/2014 21:46

Sorry to throw a cat among the pigeons, but I found this an interesting read.

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

wonderstuff · 03/02/2014 21:47

I find it very odd that he has been cleared to adopt children with Soon Yi.

So desperately sad that he felt he could behave that way and not face consequences, and he was right. I hope the letter triggers action. Very sad.

SecretWitch · 03/02/2014 21:48

My heart goes out to Dylan.
I believe you

Hedgehead · 03/02/2014 21:53

One of the arguments against Dylan was that Mia Farrow was very very angry at Woody Allen and had allowed Dylan to believe a version of things which incriminated him, so she grew up to see it as the truth.

I am on the fence though

Sleepyhead33 · 03/02/2014 21:58

I believe her.

BlueSkySunnyDay · 03/02/2014 21:58

I really dont know how I feel about this. I think we find it easier to believe it of him because he is just weird and I know we were right about Jimmy Saville but that doesnt mean that this is true.

The whole Allen/Farrow relationship was odd, they never actually lived together did they?

The situation with Soon Yi felt wrong - even if he had not raised her himself he was married to her mother and should have had the decency to just to not "go there" The fact that he did start the affair with his partners daughter proves that he has no problems crossing boundaries which are not socially acceptable.

Either way I feel sorry for Dylan - she has either been hideously let down and abused by Allen or emotionally screwed up by Farrow...very sad.

Makes you wonder what goes on behind closed doors, and is allowed to continue to go on, in other celebrity households doesnt it?

BlueSkySunnyDay · 03/02/2014 22:01

It would feel wrong to say I dont believe her - I would struggle to say that about anyone who is alleging abuse.

NirvannahCrane · 03/02/2014 22:11

I believe that she believes it happened. That does not mean it did happen.

frogslegs35 · 03/02/2014 22:12

I believe her.

fromparistoberlin · 03/02/2014 22:26

Oh gosh read this

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html#url=/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html

i beleive Dylan, and I think her childhood was very damaged, if you read the article and some other influences she might have seen... Sad

gosh I feel awful "muckraking" now

and I still beleive her but maybe the exact

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CountryPlumpkin · 03/02/2014 22:41

See this is the problem ... There are at least three factually inaccurate statements made by posters above, which are then read and re-read and stated to be fact by others and it all gets completely spun away from the actual bare bones of the situation.

Anyone who has the courage to speak up about abuse deserves to be listened to and supported. But if the circumstances are continually distorted by people just spouting inaccurate sweeping statements and believing any old crap they read on the internet, people will remain sceptical and the truth, along with justice, will never appear.

weirdthing · 03/02/2014 22:46

I believe her.

OpalQuartz · 03/02/2014 23:07

Do you not want to tell us what the factually inaccurate statements are and what the correct version is CountryPlumpkin? It would be good to clear up any misinformation that people have read on the internet if you have the facts to hand.

thepg · 03/02/2014 23:20

I don't believe her.

mygorgeousmilo · 03/02/2014 23:28

I wholeheartedly believed her.....until I heard a whole other explanation from www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/03/woody-allen-dylan-farrow-abuse-allegations

and now feel like I just have no idea. People are twisted and weird, Mia Farrow has previously been accused of brainwashing and all manner of... Really when you start reading it all it's just a huge mess and it's hard to know who to believe. But I do NOT believe that she's actively lying.

winterkills · 03/02/2014 23:41

opalquartz I can see some inaccuracies on here - that Farrow and Allen were married; that Farrow refused to press charges of child abuse in order to protect Dylan; that it is a 'matter of public record' that Allen had a penchant for very young partners.

QueenThora · 04/02/2014 00:03

I said that because he went out with a 17yo when he was in his 40s - on which he is said to have based the film Manhattan - which is certainly about that - and because of his relationship with Soon-Yi. By very young I don't mean children, but very young women/teenagers much younger than him.

IneedAsockamnesty · 04/02/2014 00:06

People who do not have (at the very least) huge sexual boundary issues,do not date the children of an ex partner

Ijustworemytrenchcoat · 04/02/2014 01:52

I was going to link to the same Daily Beast article that's already been mentioned above. Will try to make it clickable here. It raises some very interesting points, although of course the guy might be biased.

Most interesting is the part about Woody and Mia's adopted son Moses. It says he chose not to have anything to do with Woody Allen at the time but has since fell out with Mia Farrow. He specifically mentions brainwashing. Mia Farrow seems so very bitter, which you would be of course if you genuinely believed your child had been abused, but...

Also, how bizarre were her and her son Ronan's tweets after the Golden Globes? The article says Farrow gave permission for clips of her to be used in the compilation celebrating Allen - why on earth would you if he abused your daughter?! Then she and her son put out vitriolic tweets.

Interesting too about Farrow being such a vocal supporter of Roman Polanski. It is a strange case.

differentnameforthis · 04/02/2014 02:27

Fact is he didn't get prosecuted Only because Mia Farrow didn't pursue it, due to Dylan being to fragile (according to the prosecutor)

tiredoutgran · 04/02/2014 06:09

I think poor Dylan is a victim of both her mother and her father tbh! I think she is telling the truth but I also believe that Mia, possibly seeing it more as a chance to get revenge rather than for the benefit of her daughter, dealt with the whole thing badly. Having said that I am not sure how the hell you deal with something like that, I am sure she also felt her older daughter was being abused even though she was older.

Just to point out the inaccuracies mentioned above,

Farrow and Allen were never married

Allen did not adopt Soon Yi and wasn't a particular father figure to her (André Previn was her father)

Farrow did try to have charges brought but it didn't happen because there was not enough evidence against Allen and doubts were raised about Dylan's emotional and mental health.

Whatever the truth, the whole thing is so very sad and I suspect dragging it all back up now can only cause more pain for all concerned.

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