To ask if you think that Knox is guilty?

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I have no idea but it seems that her kissing her boyfriend at the time was seen as suspicious whereas I don't think that this is suspicious at all. DNA is...kissing one's lover.no. It's not even that inappropriate to kiss ones lover in the face of tragedy.
Didn't she do cartwheels though?

I think she's guilty and is very manipulative , she changed her story when questioned by police. I don't believe the charade the puts on for the camera

what does Guede's race have to do with anything? there is evidence he was there. evidence that would still be there if he was a white american.

Mignini seemed fixated on the sex game gone wrong theory and I definitely think he misjudged Amanda Knox's character.

It is possible that we have swallowed a load of bull about her personality traits, which make her seem like a psychopath, lacking in empathy etc. it is also possible that she does have these apparent personality traits but she has nothing to do with the murder.

I agree that's possible - too many murderers to mention appeared to be gentlemanly, charming, pillar of the community types...

(many of them also confessed to murder very quickly)

I don't understand why she was found guilty. Can someone explain that?

circumstantial evidence alex.

I think she knows more (suspect she was there) and is scared of revealing anything more because of the consequences. By now I think she believes whatever she has decided is the truth.
I also think she comes across as socially awkward/ autistic traits and this might be why she presents as unusual and unsympathetic. It's interesting that she was disliked by all the girls, that she presented in the media as a party girl, but didn't seem able to get on with people.

I think it's possible that she didn't think it was unusual for Meredith's door to be locked simply because she didn't really know or care about Meredith. She comes across as someone who finds herself more interesting than anyone else. to me though, she doesn't come across as a killer. no criminal record either afaik.

how is it possible for one person's dna to be everywhere at the crime scene, for there to be no dna at all of the 2 other people, and yet for them still to have been there?

i dont care about a persons personality. i care about the complete lack of dna evidence

guede will serve a longer sentence if he says he did it alone

To anyone with knowledge of Italian law, if Rs was now to admit to involvement in the murder, and implicate AK, could he be given a reduced sentence ?

I can easily imagine some young people behaving the way RS and AK are alleged to have done after the murder. If they had nothing to do with it, and they and Meredith weren't that close there is no reason to assume they would be grieving for her. If they were in the giddy new stages of a relationship I can easily see how AK and RS could behave insensitively when at the centre (as they would be given AK and MK were flatmates) of the drama.

Putting the evidence brought before the court to one side, I'd say the very behaviour that people are pointing to as an indication of guilt could just as easily be an indicator of innocence.

There is no evidence that I'm aware of that either AM or RS killed Meredith, but I do think AM was there (I'm not sure about RS), and that she knows way more than she's ever admitted. Why? Because why would she point the finger of blame at Patrick Lumumba otherwise? That, to me, proves that she knows something about who did it (Rudy Guede, another black man, is in prison for Meredith's murder - something he's admitted to - although he clams AM and RS were accomplices).

My opinion is that she's a liar, a manipulator and possibly a sociopath. Whether or not she's a murderess, I'm not sure.

I'll be very interested to see how the US handles this. I was living there at the time of the crime and the original trial and the media coverage was outrageously prejudicial towards AM. According to them, there was no way she could've done it, she was just an innocent abroad caught up in something that just happened to occur in her lodgings, her kissing her boyfriend and turning cartwheels in the police station was all just part of her exuberant personality, etc. I was appalled.

also, they did call the police. there is disagreement over the time they made the call but they did.

AlfAlf - I would suggest that anyone with an open mind and critical faculties and a bit of time reads the translation of the Massei report (there's one on a pro Meredith site somewhere, but it's a source document so you can see what the prosecution and defense witnesses testified to.) Ask yourself the key questions that you feel indicate guilt while doing so. Definitely read the prosecution summary of how the crime happened (this maybe a seperate doc, I don't remember.

This is likely to convince you one way or another and you can rest easy that you've not been manipulated by someone with an agenda.

I can add my analysis up but i've made my mind up so now am firmly in one camp and thus untrustworthy ;).

Vampire - didn't the forensics contradict what AK had said? I though AK said that someone had broken in through the window and then ransacked the room, but forensics showed window glass on top of the disturbed room, indicating that the window was smashed after the ransacking to make it look like a break in?

Oh, and i believe the equivalent report from the second trial is there too which includes some retesting of some of the evidence.

but if you've waded through that document, I want to know what you have decided, as I've only read newspaper articles which always portray her as odd or foxy or (now) a second victim............. I just don't think I can know.

AK might not have known that though.

Monetbyhimself- yes, I imagine so.

It's more or less what happened with Rudy Guede. That is why his sentence is so low.

Noteworthy also, maybe, that this retrial has increased the original guilty sentence in terms of how long.

Something else which struck me, IIRC, a comment from the other thread about if RS feels he is going down alone, will he land AK in it.....I noticed a distinct difference in attitude from RS to AK in recent interviews. Last year he did a lengthy TV interview and it was fairly evident that he was still a bit bewitched by her, he talked of how he felt for her, how he wanted to see her again, how they would always be linked whatever happened, which, given what they have been through together is fair enough.

The last time he spoke about her on TV (about a fortnight ago) it was "our paths have separated and we are going in different directions". End of.

The window thing has always been spoken of of being broken from the inside to stage a break-in after the act, yes.

I decided they had absolutely nothing to do with it, from a position of not being convinced they were killers but that they had something to do with it.

Drawing it all out is saving face for the police and now justice system, and an absolute money spinner for the media. Many very obvious victims too, not least Meredith's poor family.

I think as someone else posted this is like the Billie Jo Jenkins and Jill dando cases, we will never really know.

poor Meredith.