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If you drink beer you can still be a lady...

112 replies

heatseeker · 28/01/2014 11:24

watching some crap day time TV and a man (on a dating show) said he likes a girly girl who drinks wine, he would go for that type over a girl who drinks a half a pint because they are lady like.
I like the taste of beer and can't stand the taste of most types of wine, but still like to think I act lady like.
I also know ladies who drink wine and are not lady like.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 28/01/2014 14:42

I used to drink in a pub like this. They would only serve women half pints. I used to get two halves and a pint of water. Chuck the water away, put halves in pint glass. Interestingly John Craven once came in for a pint. He smoked too.

SauceForTheGander · 28/01/2014 14:43

Ladylike? Is this still an objective and desirable definition?

Has the pub landlord not taught anyone anything about the types who want women to be ladylike? Him and some pompous twat in red trousers.

Humpf

MrsKoala · 28/01/2014 14:43

I am taller (he's about 6ft1). But if i only went out with blokes taller (or hairier Blush ) than me i would only have had about 3 boyfriends. Especially because i wear very high heels too. ExH's mum used to bang on about it all the time. She badgered me before our wedding, insisting i wear flats so in the pics exH looked taller. (we were about the same height)

KatnipEvergreen · 28/01/2014 14:45

Really? I'm a PTA mum and drink pints of ale.

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 14:47

Dh will never beat me in the 'tashe stakes Koala.

strokes Tom Sellek moustache

Chivetalking · 28/01/2014 14:51

I only drink pints of wine.

I am a laydee.

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 14:52

only if you do it through a straw chive

motherinferior · 28/01/2014 14:52

Our PTA is packed with beer drinkers. Well, anything drinkers really.

But I would be hard pressed to find any laydeez at either Inferiorette's school, I will admit. It's why I feel so at home there.

MrsKoala · 28/01/2014 14:53

Oddly enough Please, a tache is the only thing i don't have. From the waist down i look like Mr bloody Tumnus!

StealthPolarBear · 28/01/2014 15:06

"d actually the men said they liked seeing a girl choose a pint rather than a half.."

Urgh. What tge hell has it got to do with them? Did you rate what they chose or was it just you under the microscope as an interesting and different specimen of a female?
Lot of competitive ladette ishness on this thread.

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 15:14

don't know what you are missing koala

pointythings · 28/01/2014 15:18

StealthPolarBear I was clearly a tourist so looked different. But DH (then DP) and I had been chatting with them for a while and we were getting on well. We were discussing the merits of Guinness, whether it travelled well, whether it was worth drinking it tinned - then went on to hurling, politics, archaeology etc. No laddette-ness at all, just people having a pleasant interaction. These guys made it plain that they were happy for people to be themselves - how could anyone possibly take offence at that? Confused.

What's competitive ladette ishness? Most people here have just said they like their beer in pints. Unless you think that's unladylike, I don't see the problem.

Anyway, I'm a gin snob these days, not so into the beer anymore.

BeetlebumShesAGun · 28/01/2014 15:30

Ugh hate this. My PIL always refuse to buy me a pint!

Interestingly I think DH's brain fell out when I was pregnant, as he previously said the fact I drank pints and rolled my own fags made him like me, but once when I was pregnant he said "after DD is born you will have to drink half pints as you'll be a mum...." The death stare he got convinced him otherwise I think!!!

Dahlen · 28/01/2014 15:35

Just to play devil's advocate here, you could argue that women should drink halves for each pint their male companion consumes, what with their decreased capacity for alcohol (14 units to the male 21 etc).

Mrs Koala, interesting what you say about university. I come from a semi-rural provincial town and had an accent to match when I left to go to university (the first of my family to do so). The closed-mindedness I encountered from people with far broader horizons than I'd ever had growing up quite staggered me. It was higher than I'd have expected for such a well-educated demographic. That was my first lesson in not mistaking education for intelligence.

Fortunately, of course, not everyone was like that, of course, and I soon found friends, but I have no problem picturing a group of people who looked down on you for not conforming. In my case the conformity was one based on perceived class rather than gender, but the same principle applies.

Dahlen · 28/01/2014 15:36

Posted as a pint drinker before anyone flames me. Wink

EduCated · 28/01/2014 15:38

In fact, the skill I'm most proud of is being able to carry 3 pints at once without spilling any of them. Even with my delicate ladyhands.

Chivetalking · 28/01/2014 15:43

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon

Absolutely through a straw and only sips so I don't get through the first of the evening too quickly Wink

iammrsnesbitt · 28/01/2014 15:56

I'm a fully paid up member of CAMRA so will only be seen drinking beer. Smile

In fact, there are several photos of me in my wedding dress drinking pints - one of DH's uncles took great offense to this and followed me round for most of the day telling me (and anyone else in earshot) how unladylike I was being. Angry

Any good real ale drinker knows you always drink halves when at a beer festival however - means you get to try more types of beer without being as drunk. That's a rule applied by both men and women. Wink

I wouldn't listen to any man who wanted me to be 'ladylike' full stop. I'll be what I'll be, ta very much. Grin

MrsKoala · 28/01/2014 15:57

I do agree Dahlen. But i left London at 21 after living away from home since i was 16 expecting this great time with like minded people. I had never encountered young people with these opinions before. I just remember having such a shit time. I couldn't believe how uninterested people were in anything but their subject too. For me education is about having an enquiring mind and enjoying learning - but for them it was just learn enough to pass the exam and anything outside your subject is stupid. I remember them saying things like 'wouldn't it be better if there were no black or gay people, then there would be less conflict' or 'how can someone so ugly be raped' etc and i'd just want to cry and be back with my friends in that fancy London. I was very lonely and made no friends for the whole time there. Anyway, drinking pints was the first of many transgressions i made (having sex was another). They were also extraordinarily anti drugs. It was like going to uni with a puritanical great aunt.

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 16:12

Just to play devil's advocate here, you could argue that women should drink halves for each pint their male companion consumes, what with their decreased capacity for alcohol (14 units to the male 21 etc).

Well in that case they would be served in 2/3 glasses not 1/2! Also it's based on broad generalizations.. Surely some of the women should have much less where some could probably take much more.

And many men could do with quite a lot less etc

Dahlen · 28/01/2014 16:15

Probably should have put a Wink in that sentence.

I'm torn you see. Anyone who thinks women aren't "ladylike" for not behaving in a certain way is a twat. That is a given.

But I sometimes feel like that gender equality shouldn't always be about women behaving more like men, but men behaving more like women. Fact is that in this country a lot of people drink way over their healthy alcohol allowance and perhaps we'd all be better off drinking halves and more slowly at that.

squoosh · 28/01/2014 16:19

Just to play devil's advocate here, you could argue that women should drink halves for each pint their male companion consumes, what with their decreased capacity for alcohol (14 units to the male 21 etc).

Not if you're on a date with Ronnie Corbett.

Gredandforge · 28/01/2014 16:26

Not really the same, but related... I remember being at our local "nitespot" when I was in my early 20s and the local private school had obviously had an alumni reunion dinner because the place was full of "rah"s in suits.

One of them approached me at the bar and asked me, sympathetically, "Are you drinking half lagers because that's all you can afford?" I should have poured it over his head.

LaFataTurchina · 28/01/2014 16:29

I don't mind about whether my drink is ladylike or not but If I'm drinking lager I much prefer half pints - that way it's still cold and bubbly when you get to the bottom.

I drink G&Ts in the pub mainly. Lovely, lovely gin :)

BadgersRetreat · 28/01/2014 16:39

this is hilarious - sounds very much like Al Murray (aka pub landlord)

Has to be 'pints for the blokes, glass of wine or a fruit-based drink for the laydeez'

and the only 'proper' job for a girl is teacher or nurse Grin

if you sit in the front row of his show with a pint he'll come and take it off you and give you a 'proper' drink...