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If you drink beer you can still be a lady...

112 replies

heatseeker · 28/01/2014 11:24

watching some crap day time TV and a man (on a dating show) said he likes a girly girl who drinks wine, he would go for that type over a girl who drinks a half a pint because they are lady like.
I like the taste of beer and can't stand the taste of most types of wine, but still like to think I act lady like.
I also know ladies who drink wine and are not lady like.

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2rebecca · 28/01/2014 13:24

I hate the term "lady" and like beer. I wouldn't look twice at blokes like him. Men who like to pigeon hole women into boxes like "ladylike" will want to control women and see them as another species.
We really aren't that different from blokes.

ThePearShapedToad · 28/01/2014 13:25

I personally don't order pints because a) I don't like the taste of beer, which is probably because b) I don't think it is ladylike to drink large pints of beer

I was brought up with feminist views, which I still believe to the most part, my mother taught me that an education was important and I should never rely on a man for things I want in my life; and I believe all this. However, I also would hate to not be seen as stereotypically ladylike. I can see how this is a huge contradiction! Grin

I have no problem with other girls who like to drink pints, it's just how I feel for myself. I understand this is a very opposite view to everyone here though!

wonders if I should just wimp out and delete this post

WaitingForMe · 28/01/2014 13:26

I like the idea of being ladylike. To me it's about having nice manners, being polite and pleasant (not in a pushover way). What you drink is irrelevant.

I'm quite girly and bar staff always give DH the bitter and me the IPA. Ditto him getting the cosmopolitan and me the old fashioned in cocktail bars.

Suggesting I'm not ladylike when I have a pint is like saying DH isn't a proper man for liking pink cocktails.

stubbornstains · 28/01/2014 13:28

I just can't think why the gentleman in question is so desperate for a girlfriend that he feels the need to go on a TV dating show....Grin

I have twice been lectured by French barmen for ordering a pint. It's terribly unfeminine, apparently. And once was in Paris, and it cost EIGHT FUCKING EUROS. You don't expect a lecture with that, you expect a bloody foot massage and some free crisps Angry.

Pobblewhohasnotoes · 28/01/2014 13:30

How on earth is drinking pints classed as not lady like? (And who gives a fuck anyway).

Surely it makes more sense to drink a pint than buy a half and keep going back to the bar.

stubbornstains · 28/01/2014 13:31

I'd have a problem with girls who drink pints, toad. Under 18s - girls and boys- shouldn't really be overloading their systems with too much booze. Maybe a half at sixteen, working up to a full pint at seventeen though?

Adult women, of course, can drink whatever the hell they want.

greenhill · 28/01/2014 13:34

Well, that says more about his perception, than about the drinks. I wonder what other ladylike traits he appreciates, I'd steer well clear of him.

I like a pint of real ale or a glass of Pinot Grigio depending on mood.

SlightlyDampWellies · 28/01/2014 13:34

anyway, I find you drink faster because it is a half pint. I tend to sit slowly over a pint.

arf stubborn. :)

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 13:36

Confused at koala schoolmates sitting there with 2 half pints. Bet its more expensive too that way!

I'm nearly 6ft and quite big, I can't see why I'm less able to hold a pint than some 5ft4 bloke . Most of us aren't wearing corsets waiting to faint either. Its really pathetic isn't it, how little it takes for some men to feel threatened.

Scholes34 · 28/01/2014 13:38

Accepting the fact that 16 year olds do drink alcohol when they're with friends, I've been persuading DD that beer is good to drink, and better than drinking vodka.

ThePearShapedToad · 28/01/2014 13:38

Oh for heavens sakes, girls / ladies / women, does it matter how I classify members of the female race??

Was there any need to pick up on that point?

Livvylongpants · 28/01/2014 13:48

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LurcioLovesFrankie · 28/01/2014 13:59

I drink halves 'cos I have the alcohol tolerance of a small shrew-like mammal (i.e. next to none).

However, were I of a mind to go out on dates, I would view a man's attitude to beer consumption in women as a kind of "wanker filter" - if he suggested it would be more ladylike for me to drink wine or babycham, I'd know not to go on a second date.

I do remember going to a pub in the Yorkshire dales famous for its bitter and getting a round in - my ex wanted some sort of generic keg lager. The barman delivered a killer stare, reached under the bar and produced a "stemmed glass for laydee" into which he decanted the noxious substance. It amused me no end as I took it back to then BF.

whereisshe · 28/01/2014 14:05

Happily I'm saved from this stereotype of "laydeez only drink wine" thing as I'm Australian and am therefore expected to be a peasant drink beer!

MrsKoala · 28/01/2014 14:07

Pleaseleave - yes, i'm just over 5ft 10in and i've been told that with my height and drinking pints i can put some men off - Only the men i don't want near me. So it's a win win in my book. I get to drink lovely pints and don't get bothered by twats. I think of it as quality control.

Once in a Wetherspoons a bloke asked me if i was a man in drag, then when i said no he asked me out Confused Grin

Shoewhore - i went to uni in Leicester but all my housemates were from quite small provincial places like Scunthorpe, Hull, Doncaster, tiny village in Devon etc. And oh my! the racism and homophobia were Shock Not saying everyone from these places are like that of course. Just all the really small minded ones seemed to go to my uni.

AngelaDaviesHair · 28/01/2014 14:08

MrsKoala, I like the sound of you and your DH!

SomethingkindaOod · 28/01/2014 14:13

I once dated a bloke who refused to buy me a pint of biter in a pub! Gave him a 5 minute benefit of the doubt then ditched him, he went on to marry a friend of mine, turns out that thinking only tarts drink pints. (His words) were the tip of a really nasty iceberg...

elQuintoConyo · 28/01/2014 14:17

What a dicksplash.

I went right off alcohol after giving birth Sad but when I did drink, O drank... whatever I liked! Never wine in a pub as it was always overpriced vinegar.

I think it's very 'ladylike' to laugh in the face of those who hold such views dinosaurs

GinOnTwoWheels · 28/01/2014 14:18

I don't think anyone has ever accused me of being ladylike Grin, but my dad still sometimes comments on the fact that I drink pints, despite it being nearly 20 years since he first discovered this shocking fact.

However, I'm quite inconsistent with my drink of choice, and will drink, in no particular order:

Real ale
Strong lager (Kronenburg or similar)
Cava/prosecco
White wine
Cider
Gin&Tonic (obviously)
and, probably the most shocking of all, whisky and ginger. Anyone who is shocked that a woman drinks pints, or real ale, is usually really shocked by a woman that drinks whisky.

Depends on what I fancy drinking, if and what I am eating, and the location (home, local pub, restaurant, overseas holiday).

I try to stick to same drink on each occasion and, if drinking beer, I will sometimes switch between pints and halves, depending on consumption rate.

KatnipEvergreen · 28/01/2014 14:19

Some random middle-aged bloke once came up to me to tell me that men won't fancy me if I drink pints. I replied, "Well that's great as I don't fancy men who don't fancy me for drinking pints."

I was about 20 then and fighting them off, tbh. He probably thought I was one of those terrible Ladettes he had read about in the Daily Mail.

PixieBumbles · 28/01/2014 14:29

I love real ale, drink pints and am a member of CAMRA. I can't say I've ever felt like I am less of a woman because I drink pints. In fact I've been approached by men in bars who found it very attractive.

I used to work in a real ale pub and was always bemused by the women that would come in with their husbands, order a half, then send their husbands back to the bar to get them another half when they'd finished their drink while their husbands weren't even halfway through theirs. Why not just order a pint in the first place?!

TessTackle · 28/01/2014 14:35

I went out recently, to an "upmarket bar" ordered two Stella's and the bar woman said "and for yourself?"
I couldn't believe it!

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 14:37

koala Who is taller, you or your husband?

I always see a lot of "science" Hmm about women preferring taller men..

But I think actually a lot of women end up with taller men because men can be dicks about women being taller than them. I always thought I just preferred taller men, but I think actually I liked (ironically) not being "looked down" on for my height! Hmm

Starballbunny · 28/01/2014 14:39

I got a very odd look of a PTA mum who should have known better for having a half of real Ale not a glass of wine at one meeting (school is freezing at night or at least that's our excuse for using the pub)

The pub has two sorts of white wine, bad and very bad

PleaseJustLeaveYourBrotherAlon · 28/01/2014 14:41

I drink thins like magners and Koppaberg. However if none are available I will have pint of cider, with black currant in. Surely it's lady like if the black current makes it pink?

Livvylongpants of course if it's pink it's for ladeez. it's why I love snake bite and black