to think this guy was dodgy as feck?

[BunnyLebowski]

I got on a bus this morning and sat next to the window on the lower deck.

It was very quiet and there were only two other passengers on the lower bit.

A guy got on a few stops after me and stood in the buggy section. From the corner of my eye I could see that he was staring at me.

He then came over and sat beside me. So close he was pressed up against me. I felt blocked in and extremely uncomfortable .

Bear in mind he had his choice of 20 empty seats.

I said excuse me and stood up and went to sit upstairs. Younger me would have sat there intimidated.

AIBU to think he was a total creep? I cannot think of a single innocuous reason for him doing that.

I wish I'd called him out on it.

I would have probably said quite loudly 'oh I'm sorry you obviously want this seat to yourself for some reason. So rather than be in your way and have you crushing me in this manner I'll leave you to it!' Then mutter 'weirdo' as I walked off. If other people realise he's creepy they'll watch what he's doing and also the exchange will stay in witnesses memories as it's out of the ordinary. You always hear people say 'well I noticed it because if was strange/unusual...'

How awful OP. Definitely creepy.

And yes, I agree, most women would have a story like this to tell.
It's really not good enough.

That's awful about your dd birds, I do hope she's ok! ....but why weren't you going to report it?! It's not good to sweep things like this under the rug, your dd could then have taken this as the right thing to do, god forbid if it was to happen, or worse, again.
Always report sexual abuse/incidents etc! They never do it just the once, and it's a "way of life" to some predators, and a lot of them don't know think what they are doing is wrong.
I've had this a lot on public transport... Big bags on the seat next to you will stop people sliding next to you!
I like what awful Maureen said, about being polite. I'm going to go over that with dd

I feel strongly about this, after being harassed on the bus myself.

I was around 18 on my way to work, broad daylight, I was sat upstairs and I was the only one. This middle aged guy comes up and sits right next to me. At this point I'm thinking wth? But for some dumb reason I sat there not knowing what to do, trying to be flipping polite I guess. Within the next few minutes I turn to his direction and see that he was giving himself a hand job.

Iv been wary of sitting next to me for years after that.

Well done OP for moving, I wish I was braves enough to have done it then

*Men
*i wish I has been brave enough

God, yeah, I bet nearly every woman has had at least one similar experience. I haven't thought about how horrible that is until now. Just thinking back I can remember a few times it happening to me and I've not given it another thought. I feel outraged about it now!

One time I was about 20 and an older man following me round a bus stop, came and sat down next to me on a step in a doorway when I had already moved away from him. I asked him to move away please because he was making me feel uncomfortable and he ended up shouting loads of really vile things at me, and saying he knew where I worked (I had my uniform on). Who the fuck does that? Nobody stepped in to help me and I just got on my bus, went home and didn't make much of a fuss about it. Fucking hell the thought of anyone doing that to my daughter when she grows up?!!!

My two dcs are very young but I want to teach dd to keep herself safe and ds to respect the safety and feelings of women. Thinking about how this type of stuff is quite normal, and also that many of us feel, for whatever reason, that there is an expectation for us to put up with it or not cause a fuss has really struck a nerve with me this morning.

Yes 'sammy* I've also had the 'being wanked at by a complete stranger' scenario too. I bet that is sadly not uncommon either

For those that like the schrodinger rapist link, I also like this story about creepy guy on public transport.

Hahaha! I once had to do that for a university assignment (art degree, late seventies) and write about the responses I got!!!

That story is excellent! I do hope it's true, and really wish more blokes would do that

candy, we know full well that not all men behave creepily because they're creepy fuckers, and yes, there may be other issues at play when men behave like creepy fuckers. But clearly, in THIS instance, the OP felt he was a creepy fucker.

She is entitled to feel like that, and to be unhappy with it.

What is the point of your posts on this thread?

yoni I loved that story! and have bookmarked that to share with my DH, and future DC (boys and girls). Thank you.

It's horrible isn't it bean?

One of the reasons I hate travelling on buses. I don't want some bored married man livening up his commute by rubbing up against me - I don't care if he's good looking or smartly dressed or not, creeps and pervs aren't attractive. If it behaves like a creep, it is a creep.

I've also encountered the type that gets off more on intimidating. When that happens I tend to take back control by pissing them off (its always been in a place with other people around). Lacking any other "weapons" I once glared, Wednesday Adams style, at a creepy man on a train who had been staring at me and muttering aggressive noises, having moved seats to sit opposite me, got an empty crisp bag out of my pocket and started scrunching it loudly. He soon wandered off, muttering "bloody nutter".