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Do you know anyone in real life who votes for UKIP?

331 replies

puddingsforsandy · 29/12/2013 22:15

And if so, do you judge them?

If you're a UKIP supporter yourself, are you happy to declare it in public/at work?

I haven't yet (well I think!) meet anyone who votes for this party. Someone from FB linked something from UKIP FB page disagreeing with it. This lead me to their page. The supporters of this party come across as thick (going by the FB page)

I can't believe this is the same party that was lead by that talk show host. Silk something.

Anyway that's my opinion but my questions above still stand.
Thanks.

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FreudiansSlipper · 11/04/2014 18:51

a few people I know shall probably vote UKIP

they are the typical UKIP supporter only able to focus on one policy, immigration

of course like most UKIP supporters they have no idea what else Nigel Farage has planned if UKIP ever win, which they will not but I would never underestimate the support they have

HolidayCriminal · 11/04/2014 19:31

Z O M B I E T H R E A D

The largest single year for births in the UK was 1964.

You know, it suddenly struck me the other day that one reason we're having a baby boom is the children of the baby boomers are growing their own families. Feeling a bit numptyish I didn't realise that earlier.

Polonius · 11/04/2014 20:15

My grandma. And yes I judge her. She is racist.

Polonius · 11/04/2014 20:15

Not that I think the party is racist, just that my grandma is. I worry about her voting bnp too.

LtColGrinch · 11/04/2014 20:38

I know a few people that say they'd vote UKIP. I have voted UKIP in the past & may well again in the future once I've weighed them up against the Tories and whoever else isn't Labour or Lib Dem.

I'm more likely to form an opinion of someone who says they're voting Green TBH....

HollyBrrr · 12/04/2014 01:35

Complexnumber - I know his hometown as it's my hometown too. He wasn't a 'minority', it's got one of the most caucasian populations in the UK. And I think it's a bit rich of him to complain about 'foreigners' 'taking' British jobs (and how does he know whether they're British citizens or not?) when he's been working illegally in other countries. If you can't see the hypocrisy in that then I'm gobsmacked.

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 02:09

Yes I do OP and yes I judge them. For the exact same reason waffily stated. I also don't see UKIP as a mainstream party. To be a mainstream party you would need at least a handful of MPs. :)

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 02:25

Just to clarify when I say I judge them - the them is generically termed to mean those of the ill informed - not quite aware of their whole manifesto knee jerk reaction type voter.

OhMerGerd · 12/04/2014 06:06

The thing is if UKIP win lots of Euro election seats won't we be paying these people hundreds of thousands of pounds in wages and expenses to technically holiday in Europe for 5 years?

They're not going to be engaging in any of the EU stuff are they? So basically we won't have anyone representing us as all these laws and regulations get passed.

And won't they direct our taxes towards paying lawyers to try and extricate us from EU? Said lawyers will rake in millions if not billions over time just to tell us that 'we fought a good fight but it's just not possible' as they head off to their retirement homes in Provence, Tuscany, Algarve(take your pick but it won't be Barry Island, Blackpool or Western Super-Mare for sure) .

It's a bit like funding an anti drugs party using the proceeds of the local cannabis farm. It's never going to be in UKIPs interests for us ever to actually get out if Europe, so another sordid gravy train rolls on.

I really get the protest vote idea as all the others are uninspiring but if UKIP win big for most of the people who voted for them it'll be like waking up after the most amazing one night party with a very bad five year hangover. And finding that all the paracetamol, alka seltzer etc have been taken by the French and Germans who won't share them again with us until we agree to doing the karaoke in fancy dress at their next party.

The rest will just be stuck in this nightmare unless they emigrate to erm.... Europe.

catgirl1976 · 12/04/2014 07:30

MIL does and yes I do judge her

RufusTheReindeer · 12/04/2014 10:05

Was out last night and two friends voted UKIP last year

They wouldn't for a general election but did for the local ones because they thought the candidates ideas were sound and admired his work ethic

They will not vote for him again because he is a plonker

Nennypops · 12/04/2014 11:32

I used to work with someone who was a UKIP candidate. She was incompetent at her job, and unnecessarily aggressive and antagonistic, and her views were certainly racist. The depressing thing is that in general she is seen as one of the saner and more balanced members of UKIP.

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 13:09

OhMyGerd I agree - would be interesting to see wouldn't it? I'm sure there was an article about it a while ago but can't put my hands on it. I do however, think Nelson had it spot on here over the whole Clegg v Farage debacle...sorry I meant 'Debate'. blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/03/extremists-nick-clegg-and-nigel-farage-both-lost-the-eu-debate/

CatThiefKeith · 12/04/2014 13:16

I was Shock last week when the newsagent last week had UKIP leaflets all over their counter. I did point out the racism angle to the shop keeper, but he assured me they weren't racist, and lots of Indian shopkeepers will be voting for them in the next election! Shock

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 13:30

Did they say why Cat?

CatThiefKeith · 12/04/2014 15:25

Immigration apparently!

Mandip has a large network of friends and cousins, many of whom own local businesses and he was adamant they were all going to vote UKIP. I was agog!

longfingernails · 12/04/2014 15:42

I imagine it must indeed be a shock to the chatterati of MN that UKIP could possibly attract the vote of a small shopkeeper. And what does his ethnicity have to do with it?

If some of the BBC/Guardian/MN types lived in the real world, they would realise that a vote for UKIP, particularly in a nonsense election like those for the EU, is amply justified.

Trojanhouse · 12/04/2014 15:50

Cat omg .
However , I can't say that I am surprised NF ( oh the irony of those initials) continually points out that they have members from different ethnic groups. These deluded people think that they are somewhat protected because they were born or have lived in Britain. What they fail to realise is that the average UKIP voter regards them as 'foreign' too.

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 15:51

It can be as 'justified' as it wants long. Farage still isn't going to be able to pull MPs out of his arse. I do quite like the term Chatterati though, is that a new naice sort of insult to the lefties on here. Because if you think it is only the Left that disagree with him you are wrong, Louise Mensch for one has an ardant dislike of their miniscule policies.

longfingernails · 12/04/2014 15:59

See my post on 22 Dec 2013 22:24 on this thread.

I vote UKIP tactically, to encourage the Conservative party to move to the right. I see it as a badge of honour if the left-wing of the Tories (basically Lib Dems) like Ken Clarke and Louise Mensch are offended by my political preferences.

I agree that UKIP won't be able to win MPs - hence people should vote Conservative (or at the least, anti-Labour) in a general election - but they can still wield considerable influence.

longfingernails · 12/04/2014 16:00

Sorry 30 Dec 13 22:24

Misspixietrix · 12/04/2014 16:16

Yes I have read the thread thanks. You think Mensch is left of right?! haha!

Nennypops · 12/04/2014 16:49

Good grief, long, you seriously think the Conservative party is left leaning? Since when was there anything left-wing about what they have done to the Health Service, the disabled, the poor, education, legal aid? And indeed what they have failed to do about tax evasion?

ilovesooty · 12/04/2014 17:29

I wouldn't be surprised if my sister and brother in law voted for them. We don't discuss politics - judging by the racist shit I've heard from them it would make me too angry.

longfingernails · 12/04/2014 20:18

Nennypops The Tories aren't left-leaning (by and large); but like all big political parties, they are made up of people with a variety of views, and varying degrees of conviction. These range from one-nation liberal guilt paternalist wets (Cameron) to great reformers with zeal for their individual mission (Gove) to working-class Tories (Thatcher) who believe you shape your own destiny. There are some remnants of the Europhile faction (Clarke, Heseltine) and they are to be despised; what irks me as a small-c conservative is how much Cameron et al accept the EU's diktats and power grabs. I think UKIP are great; the only way Cameron will win over dithering UKIP waverers is for the working class Tory tendency to be heard loud and clear, and for the ideology of the wets to wither away.