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Buggies must be folded by law, if a wheelchair user wishes to board

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BerniceBroadside · 19/12/2013 08:33

I know this can be a hot topic so thought I'd share that stagecoach have new signs on their buses stating that buggies must be folded by law if a wheelchair user wishes to board. Let's hope it's actually enforced.

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GobbySadcase · 19/12/2013 19:57

No fucking way.
I want people to see what they do to families like mine.

If consciences prick people so much the better.

AmberLeaf · 19/12/2013 19:58

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Fluffytent · 19/12/2013 19:59

I wish you all the best, and am sorry you feel that way.

SpikeyChristmasTree · 19/12/2013 19:59

People refusing to fold their buggy because it is difficult have caused very real problems to people on this thread and their families. Their attitudes really depress those of us who thought things might get better for those with disabilities.

This thread should stay exactly where it is. People on this thread aren't after support - they just want the legal right for people with disabilities to travel in the space allocated to them.

Binkyridesagain · 19/12/2013 19:59

Its not the people that are dealing with disabilities that need educating on this matter, so why would this thread need moving to the SN board?

candycoatedwaterdrops · 19/12/2013 20:00

Comparing being a parent of multiples with being a wheelchair user............. Shock

GobbySadcase · 19/12/2013 20:01

Candy are you new here Wink

It's not just buses, they like taking prams in disabled loos too.

DownstairsMixUp · 19/12/2013 20:01

No way to moving this thread!!! it's people without disabilities and multiple children by the sound of this thread that need educating!!

candycoatedwaterdrops · 19/12/2013 20:02

Retropear Getting off the bus and waiting 30 minutes for the next bus won't kill or hospitalise your babies (assuming healthy) but it very well might for dawndonna's LOVELY DD but that's ok, isn't it? Because it's not a choice to have multiples.....

candycoatedwaterdrops · 19/12/2013 20:02

I'm not new, just fucking frustrated. Sad

Retropear · 19/12/2013 20:03

Oh spare us your competitive outage Candy nobody is but pointy out facts ie multiple babies don't vanish into thin air and this may well be an issue on occasions.

Dawndonnaagain · 19/12/2013 20:03

But that's the point, Retro you could have.
Me, I don't have that choice. I have very few choices and every day people like you remove further choices. You see, a lot of bus drivers haven't yet got the message that my choices do in fact override yours, so they will ask a mum to fold and she will look at me, and my mates and think to herself no, my baby is more precious. Well, to her, yes, her baby/babies are more precious, but the will grow up and have oh so many choices. They will be able, at some point to choose when to get up in the morning, when to go downstairs, when to go shopping. When I was little we'd go out and get to the supermarket but not be able to get me out, this would occur on a fairly regular basis. I was convinced for a long time that people didn't like me and didn't want to see me. To some extent that's true. The mum on the bus doesn't want to acknowledge my existence, it nudges something in her subconscious, a little fleeting, god that could be my kid, followed instantly, but fleetingly with a touch of guilt for thinking it. Seeing me there reminds you of the fragility of existence and frightens you. Well I get frightened too, I get frightened when you won't fold because the cold could kill me. I get frightenend when people don't fold because I'm frequently called upon by complete strangers to justify my very existence. Why should I get on the bus, haven't I got a fucking mobility car? And then, as I've said before I have to deal with the bullies. Those that won't let it go Retro, that by posting continually on threads like this about how right they are, and how awful those disabled militant frothers are, come into my home, and bully me.
I remain unimpressed Retro. Unimpressed.
Dawndonna's dd.

IamInvisible · 19/12/2013 20:04

You still chose to get on the bus with them Retro knowing that it is a wheelchair space and by law you could be asked to fold or get off. You can not deny that.

Retropear · 19/12/2013 20:07

On some of our roads it could kill,then there is the legality of £8 worth of bus fair,the logistics of walking miles to your designation trailing toddlers.Seriously Candy your posts just look utterly nasty as is this thread.

Anyhow you clearly just want to read what you want to read,twist what you want to twist and refuse to listen to anybody else so I'll leave you to it.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 19/12/2013 20:07

WTF, it is not competitive outrage? It was posted above by a real human being. Stop trying to shut down arguments because you think the world revolves around you.

IT IS A WHEELCHAIR SPACE!

Sirzy · 19/12/2013 20:08

yet again DawnDonnas DD, very eloquent and well put. I hope your post make just one person think twice before refusing to 'struggle' by putting their pram down.

Retropear · 19/12/2013 20:08

Dawn as I said- we're not talking about one baby.

maillotjaune · 19/12/2013 20:09

Dear Dawndonna's DD
Thank you for posting that, you sound like an amazing young woman.

AmberLeaf · 19/12/2013 20:09
Flowers
Sirzy · 19/12/2013 20:10

Retro - as has been said, and by some people with multpiles infact IIRC DawnDonnas DD is infact a twin, it is still possible for you to make it so everyone can travel on the bus. To refuse to do so is selfish

candycoatedwaterdrops · 19/12/2013 20:10

Why don't people who are upset about being asked to move from wheelchair spaces, campaign for designated pushchair spaces?!

AmberLeaf · 19/12/2013 20:10

Seriously Candy your posts just look utterly nasty as is this thread

Oh the irony.

GobbySadcase · 19/12/2013 20:10

No, what's utterly nasty is that you consider making your life easier for a very short time (as they will grow and get more independent) over someone who is never going to have that.

Retropear · 19/12/2013 20:11

And we're not talking about refusing either- as I've said frequently.Hmm

GobbySadcase · 19/12/2013 20:12

The next years going to be funny if you don't like reins.
Three kids going in three different directions...