To get infuriated by people mis using parent and child spaces?

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It's all in the title really. A woman just told me she had parked in one because she had a dog in her car. Aibu to think she is inconsiderate?

And if it is temporary, you won't get a blue badge no matter how severely it affects your mobility. Recovering from a major operation for example and struggling to walk for 2 or 3 months, you won't get a disabled badge.

Only if they are registered disabled and entitled to a blue badge. There are plenty of people who have disabilities/medical problems which mean they struggle but they aren't entitled to a blue badge.

Such as women who have just been through a physically life-changing birth?

No, they do not. It's really hard to get a badge.

This is going to go round and round...

insummer No one has said don't use a space FFS. They're saying don't assume that people without a child in a P&C space do not have a medical condition either. You called them all twats earlier!

Not sure why that's so hard to understand.

So you can appreciate the elderly may need to be closer to the shop but not others?

My son has brittle asthma, sometimes I have no choice as a single mum but to take him to asda with me, and the pharmacy is in asda too, thankfully he isn't bad enough (yet) to warrant applying for a blue badge but when he is bad then cutting down the distance he needs to walk is very useful, far more useful than parking close when he was a baby was.

Such as women who have just been through a physically life-changing birth?

Most sane and rational people would think its okay for a woman who has recently had a life changing birth to use a P&C space, or a heavily pregnant woman, or a person carrying a passenger who is using crutches....

Everlong - there are swathes of people with various conditions out there that getting to park near the entrance makes their life a little bit easier that do not, unfortunately, qualify for a badge. It's not easy to get a badge at all.

everlong I can't say I spend too much time worrying over it tbh. On my list of things that piss me off, it's not top of the list but I can appreciate it's annoying.

I've been ill for 18months, I got my badge approved this week. You get one automatically if you are on higher rate mobility pip/dla, or can apply with your council. With my council, you have to foresee problems for at least 12 months to apply.

Luckily, I have toddlers, so noone queried why I was parking in p&c, but it was more for me than them. And even now, permanently on crutches, I still get at least once a day "oh you don't look ill" or "poor love, what have you done"

But the problem is everlong those people who decide it is their job to challenge people, you can't tell by looking at someone why they need the space. Those who do need the space will be made to feel even worse, those who are selfish and use it anyway are highly unlikely to change anyway so what exactly do they think they will achieve?

If a space is free great use it, if not park elsewhere.

Isn't the point of giving parents with small kids wide bays so that they can open the doors wide to get kids into carseats and also to take babyseats out so the babies can continue to sleep while parents shop? Makes sense to me. I don't think they should be used by heavily pregnant mothers unaccompanied by kids, dog owners etc. YANBU OP.

And Candy no-one has actually said that a disabled person shouldn't use a P&C space, though you seem desperate to believe otherwise!

I don't think there is anyone who is saying that everyone who uses the P&C spaces without a child is automatically disabled but that you have no idea who is and isn't, so if you approach them, you may come out of the exchange look like a twunt.

insummer You posted up-thread that anyone without a child who parks in them is twat.

Norudeshitrequired I had hoped to leave the thread and head off for my 300th night of no sleep. But I feel the need to fend myself. Because I have never, either in RL or on MN moaned about a parent of an 8 yr old child using a p&c space.

Ever long - lots of 4x4 mothers might have disabled children (big cars help carry the equipment). Young lads might have a hidden disability such as chronic asthma. You can't discriminate based on age or vehicle to decipher whether somebody should morally be using the space.

Realamanda - I must have confused you for somebody else, but the rest of my post still stands.

Candy Re-read my comments, ironically the one aimed at you, before you post. I said that didn't include disabled people.

Everlong'sprevious comment is spot on; it's the lazy, able-bodied selfish people who are in the wrong. I seem to have seen many.

Maybe I shop at the wrong places.

Amanda Not sure why you're getting offended. No one is attacking you. People are getting pissed off that some people judge others as able bodied based on nothing or challenging people but you don't do that anyway, sooooo.....!