Itsallgoing Which is exactly what you/the No Campaign are doing. I post something, in your opinion it is wrong. Where is the evidence that is wrong.?
Its not wrong, its just badly put together nonsense. tbh you should be embarrassed, as should anyone who is presenting a serious campaign, to present people with such poor propaganda. I can only assume you think everyone else is stupid. Which considering the level of information provided by you, is remarkably insulting indeed.
Or do you think the levels of poverty are acceptable?
I don't think an independent Scotland will address poverty successfully. There are too many people who make money out of it, and in eradicating poverty, would do themselves and many others out of a job.
I also don't understand why Scotland is so oppressed and has so much poverty, in a country with such generous state benefits, free education until age 16 (and often beyond) and good health provision. Its actually quite an achievement. The Netherlands doesn't have much poverty, neither does Belgium. Why Scotland? Maybe its more a mindset?
I am perfectly happy for you to refute my arguments by linking to biased Better Together sources, that would be useful for me/other readers if this thread.
I have nothing to do with any campaign and would never link to propaganda of any kind. There are plenty of verifiable sources out there - I have tried to describe this to you before but I'm not sure it sunk in.
All you are doing though is trying to shut down the debate by saying that I am stupid. That is not engaging with the argument, or making any useful comment
Not at all. Thats like me saying you are sniping with pointless petty arguments and rehashing the same stuff because you think who talks the longest wins, not matter what you might say. I think you are making a great mess of talking up the "Yes" campaign, and by not agreeing with you, you are perpetuating that. I suspect the sort of person who will not vote yes is the sort of person who will not tend to take part in online debates. As for me, I was educated in the Netherlands and due perhaps to the nationality of one of my parents, have a cultural tendency to say exactly what I think. Attempts to shut me up have no effect whatsoever.
It would be great if this debate could have two sides. Positive cases put forward by both the yes and the No camps, as well as a constructive discussion of each sides arguments and their merits
I think there are far more than two sides to this.
I'm really shocked that anyone could present such information as The Short Video, the Common Weal and the Jimmy Reid Foundation as arguments for any cause. Their quality is so bad and they are such biased propaganda that I would expect any reasonable person to notice that. ie I would expect anyone who could read and write and who had been educated to at least age 16 to be able to produce better quality and to be embarrassed and ashamed to present it as serious argument. The fact you didn't even notice this means that in my eyes, most of what you say has no credence, because you constantly misunderstand things that a better educated person or at least a person with more varied experience, would be expected to understand as of standard.