Animals vs humans round 2

[livingzuid]

I was enjoying our previous debate started by Fifi. Not sure if we were done!

AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

But it would be you I'd have issues with (note I did not say kill ) not your dog.

www.myageingparent.com/life-saving-step-to-protect-elderly-from-fire/

Two minutes before the air becomes unbreathable and you collapse unconscious...

Steps to prevent fire
kidshealth.org/kid/watch/er/fire_safety.html

But I expect telling other people you'd kill their pets is more righteous, eh? More heroic and romantic.

Oh dear dumb as well as murderers. At no point did I say fail to save. I said CHOOSE to save. Fully aware that you would murder dogs & people if they CHOSE to save their loved one (pet) over your loved stranger. I am we'll aware & thought I had made very clear I understood your conditions of murder. I do not twist words. I clearly acknowledge & understand that you would murder someone if they CHOSE, not failed, CHOSE, to save their loved one. My argument stands. Have I made this clear enough? So, if you want to TRY & murder me & my loved ones for CHOOSING (not failing) to rescuer your loved one over my pet, like I've said bring it on you smarty pants keyboard warriors. I will take great pleasure in your attempts. Ok, must go & spend some quality times with my very intelligent dog. Bye bye smart murderers.

I've just read spiders full response and I'm pissing myself! Who threatened to murder you?? Humour me spider that you know doggy behaviour and I know a bit about human behaviour, I'm not threatening to send a baying mob after you but I know enough about people to know they'd be pretty upset about you leaving a baby to burn. But you have made me day with you're 'do you know who you're talking to' comment quote of the year

It's a hypothetical situation Any

Oh Spider you are a tonic

Who threatened to murder you, Spider?

I'm still waiting to hear

There really is some nasty goady fucking behaviour on this thread?

And after the way the last one went was is really necessary to start another one? It was obvious the two camps were never going to agree.

Be really careful about threatening to murder people online. You have no clue who you are talking to.

Side-show Bob?!

Side-show Bob?!

And for those who are making snide insinuations about disablist attacks: report them. Get them deleted. I can't remember many deletions on the previous thread.

Report it then Mardybra

I have 2tired

Only one post was deleted on that thread, and for disablist language/attack. It wasn't, I don't think (I don't know, they weren't named), the regular poster that seemed to be referred to.

Post deleted on this thread here I'm guessing was a personal attack (because it was) aimed at me.

" Sat 02-Nov-13 20:50:36
I never said it was one sided but there were some regulars (who are loud voices on MN) who were horrid."

If you are going to make insinuations about "regulars" at least have the decency to name them and quote exactly what they are supposed to have said, rather than leaving a nasty suspicion hanging over some of tKhe regulars who were in Team Human.

I didn't threaten to murder anyone. I threatened to kill a hypothetical dog in a very specific hypothetical situation.

I don't remember calling anyone crazy.

I even said at one point that I could understand thr other perspective. But also that I was shocked and had no respect for that opinion.

Still no-one has answered the question I asked on the last thread, and someone else has asked on this one - so I'll ask it again to all the human savers.

WHY do you think that human life is more important than the life of any other species?

The only really threatening post i've seen so far is Spiders

I prize a child's life above any animals and above my own because I just do! Doesnt need any further explanation, do you have a reason for your decision? No one from Team Animal has replied as to whether they would be happy if a stranger saved their pet over your child, real human child that is,

If the very unlikely scenario occurred where it could be proved beyond doubt that a competent adult had stood in a burning building looking at a cat and a baby/ small child lying side by side, both alive but unable to save themselves, and the adult made a clear choice to save the animal and leave the child to die...

Would that adult then be liable to be prosecuted for manslaughter or second degree murder?

Er, a few have replied to that one, 2tired, saying that of course they wouldn't be happy but would accept the situation rather than going round with a baying mob to kill said pet, because they understand it's not for them to decide how someone else should or should not value other lives.