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AIBU?

Animals vs humans round 2

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livingzuid · 02/11/2013 20:00

I was enjoying our previous debate started by Fifi. Not sure if we were done!

AIBU to think if faced with choosing a pet over a human (even if a stranger), you should choose the human?

The idea was brought up in another thread and put in life or death situation. Building on fire contains your pet and a stranger. You could only save one, who would it be?

I had a dog, Ralph, I cried my heart out when he died 3 years ago. The only dog I wasn't scared of! But I can't imagine leaving a person to die instead, no matter how my heart would break.

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SharpLily · 03/11/2013 10:27

Right. But you were also one of the two who believed it would be reasonable to kill said innocent pet if I failed to rescue your child, so there does seem to be a certain amount of relish there...

pianodoodle · 03/11/2013 10:29

Not "failed" to rescue my child. That would imply you had tried.

If you chose to rescue your pet over my child and then expected me to understand I don't think I'd be responsible for what I did tbh!

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:29

I wouldn't kill the pet but I would be tempted to hurt you. If they are not fetishised why on earth do some people talk about them like they are human, dress them up like dolls, dye their hair spend thousands on them etc etc plus what pianodoodle said

pianodoodle · 03/11/2013 10:30

I doubt many would feel particularly forgiving towards you in those circumstances.

SharpLily · 03/11/2013 10:33

Fortunately I feel I'd be able to struggle on without the approbation of a bunch of random strangers - as long as I have my beloved dog beside me for support .

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:35

You wouldn't be able to struggle on if set upon by a baying mob, is your dog a big scary one

pianodoodle · 03/11/2013 10:36

Hmmm.. then you'd be a monster.

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:39

A lonely one at that

PrincessFlirtyPants · 03/11/2013 10:39

I doubt I would be too concerned with what a stranger thought of me either. Why were they not in the fire saving their relative?

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:42

Because that is not the hypothetical question is it.

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:43

I'm also 100 percent sure that if you saved a dog and left a child to burn it wouldn't just be one stranger disapproving!

PrincessFlirtyPants · 03/11/2013 10:45

Gosh, you human saviours are such a friendly bunch aren't you...

Whatever happened to a friendly debate?

I'm off. Not worth my time. or my life saving skills

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 10:46

Yes that's a reasonable response to a lost argument!

livingzuid · 03/11/2013 11:05

No she's off because it got unpleasant again. There is no need to use the word monster and so on. Around 40% of people would refer that term to you but I am sure you wouldn't give a monkey's. Because they are strangers. I couldn't care less what strangers thought of me either and I would still save my dog over a random human any day of the week from the house. Just looking at him now and yep, he's far more important.

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2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 11:16

Not my word but I cant disagree with it as it feels like a monsterous concept to me.

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 11:18

It works both ways as well, I just cant believe that you would be alright with it if a stranger saved their pet over your child?!

AKAK81 · 03/11/2013 11:27

I'd save my dog over a stranger's child every time, without hesitation.

AnyBigFuckingJessie · 03/11/2013 11:29

This is a stupid argument. Fire is nasty. You will not have the opportunity to pick and choose, and you should save the first creature you come across. If you try to pick and choose, you'll lose them both.

Maybe if more people understood that, more people would have smoke alarms with batteries in.

Life is not a dramatic soap opera, and fire doesn't cooperate with you, asthe Phillpotts discovered.

Spider7 · 03/11/2013 11:29

Wow this thread is certainly unpleasant. The last one had some unpleasantness to it but it also had some lighthearhearted & quite funny comments from both sides. This one seems to be falling under mob mentality in a big way. Threatening people on a much bigger scale than the last. Baying mob! Really? And you say this with relish? to a stranger you have vowed to rescue? This is your response to someone who does not share the same values as you? You human saviours would kill a human? You'd run into your burning home to save a stranger at the expense of your pet, find out said stranger had once saved their pet over a stranger & promptly kill them? This argument is ok for you? Fine.

I'm going to save my pet first because the stranger might be one of you oh so (not) nice people. But I would go back & try & save you after. And if it turned out that you'd previously rescued a stranger rather than a pet I would not hold it against you. I can honestly say that while I would naturally want a loved human of mine saved over someone else's pet or their own loved human, I would not blame or feel ill will towards someone who did choose to save their pet... or loved human, or even another stranger. Because it is entirely possible that it could be a houseful of strangers.

You want to send a mob after me for saving a loved one rather than your loved one, who I do not love, simply because you do not value my loved one? Bring it on. I won't need my dog to kick your smug, sanctimonious, holier than thou, hypocritical arses! My feelings if my loved one dies are of more concern to me than the strangers relatives. My loved ones life is of more concern to me than a stranger. Especially after reading you lot threaten to murder strangers! Seriously bring it! You'll have the 'riotous' anger of bereavement & probably fuck all training in how to fight. I will have riotous anger, self preservation & protection for my loved one plus a lifetime of, tested, training. Be really careful about threatening to murder people online. You have no clue who you are talking to.

Choosing one life over another is not murder. Deliberately seeking out a life to end is murder.

I'm going to leave you keyboard warriors to it. Pity my training partners tomorrow!

pianodoodle · 03/11/2013 11:35

I think you need a lie down Spider7 at the very least

Ivyfairy · 03/11/2013 11:36

And we've had deletions too, now! I was deleted for quoting part of, by the way.

curlew · 03/11/2013 11:38

I didn't say I'd kill your dog if you failed to save my child. I said I'd kill your dog if you chose to save your dog rather than my child. A subtle but important difference.

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2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 11:38

What a word twister you are Spider

2tiredtoScare · 03/11/2013 11:39

Ivyfairy · 03/11/2013 11:43

I'd be as cross as curlew if you left my hypothetical baby to burn and were outside the building hugging your dog/cat/hamster.

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