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to wonder why Liz Jones hates Mothers, especially sahm's, so much?

130 replies

usuallyright · 27/10/2013 18:00

from the daily mail:
(Poisonous and bitter even by LJ standards)

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2477686/Cooing-cute-cot-sheets-NOT-mothers-main-job.html

OP posts:
bronya · 28/10/2013 07:04

I think it's sad. Staunch feminism with no room for choice is always sad anyway.

mignonnette · 28/10/2013 07:13

She talks fo being on debt then spends nearly a grand on Jimmy Choo biker boots.

That is not a debt I have sympathy with.

Mimishimi · 28/10/2013 07:17

Staying at home for a while when DD was young gave me the time to learn to sew, a skill which I had pooh-poohed my mother, grandmother and great -grandmothers interest and ability in when I was younger under the same misguided notion it was outdated and not at all feminist (domestic sciences -ewww). I've potentially saved hundreds of thousands since by making my own bespoke stuff Grin Well, okay, not really since I'm hardly the type to be buying Vera Wang anyway. Still, I'm not going to drop a few hundred pounds on a summer dress or skirt I can make myself for 30 -40. I guess her missive is to stir up people, no matter who she alienates along the way ( pretty much everyone by the sounds of it).

LurcioLovesFrankie · 28/10/2013 07:21

If Liz Jones is a feminist then I'm the Pope. No one who hates women as much as she does counts as a feminist.

mignonnette · 28/10/2013 07:31

The purest example of projection ever. So much self hatred pushed onto others.

MissBeehiving · 28/10/2013 07:32

Oh, Liz hates herself and that's what comes through in her articles. She is irrelevant.

Retropear · 28/10/2013 08:06

I've got a bloody degree,have travelled,I read,I had a career.I am not an amoeba,I have opinions and a brain.I'm not lazy or a non person.

I have learnt and gained an incredible amount as a sahp probably more than from any of the above.

It may not suit or benefit everybody but it suits and benefits my children,my family and me hugely so naff off Liz.

Mimishimi · 28/10/2013 08:13

I wonder why she's self-loathing. I just youtubed her ( had never heard of her before today) and she's not ugly at all, even before her cosmetic surgery. Somehow I just don't dislike her the way I dislike Samantha Brick. She seems a deeply flawed character but still there is something I like about her - she reminds me strongly of one of my school friends even in physical appearance. It's disturbing that the professional success she has achieved has meant that she's had to alienate all of those around her - her editorial brief should not have had to cost her her relationships. Like a PP, I think she needs a big hug (and no access to credit).

melika · 28/10/2013 08:16

I can relate to a lot of what she wrote yesterday, similar upbringing, big family,always felt my Mom had a lot more to offer the world. And what thanks did she get?

Retropear · 28/10/2013 08:22

Lots of people self loath but they don't try to drag down a whole group of society with them.

As I said if it was any other ism there would be uproar. Soooo sad that such a valuable choice for many is being belittled like this.That choices parents make for their children are being denigrated and taken away.

The Condems started it and she is simply running with it.

impty · 28/10/2013 08:25

I pity her. There's always been something deeply unhinged about her, and she's a bit of a lost soul really.

However, the day I care about what any if the femail 'journalists' think about themselves and other women is the day hell freezes over. They write absolute drivel for money, surely they realise they are just making fools if themselves? I wonder if they are deluded into believing they have a worth while career, and are writing truths. Whereas, I suspect, they are sniggered about even in the Daily Mail office.

Retropear · 28/10/2013 08:28

I know imp the fact she thinks writing such drivel (which I could easily knock up whilst getting the kids ready for school) is more worthy than my previous career and my very worthwhile job now is mind blowing- and sad.

mignonnette · 28/10/2013 08:28

I must admit I would be deeply ashamed if I was related to many of the DM journalists whether they be male or female because of the spiteful loathing copy that pours forth.

Unsolicited criticism always needs to be seen in the context of the person giving it.

mrsjay · 28/10/2013 09:03

because she is paid to hate and be hated that is her job she really should get a proper worth while journalist job

notundermyfoof · 28/10/2013 09:16

I feel sorry for her actually, she is so obviously lonely and unhappy. Her articles are badly written and jump from one subject (slagging off women who have a family) to another (her loneliness, bad life choices, debt, failed relationships etc). Whatever hatred she spews at mothers she feels more for herself Sad

MrsBucketxx · 28/10/2013 09:22

I read it am thought she just jealous and bitter about how her life has ended up. I dont normally even read anything she writes its full of hatred to other women. Especially those prettier or have the life she wanted to have (eg sahm)

The dm needs to drop her

Latara · 28/10/2013 09:25

Omg I hope I don't get that bitter if I can't have children in the end!

lljkk · 28/10/2013 09:41

I become very confused when DM journos come on Radio & get interviewed. They sound so ordinary, well-informed, well-educated & civilised, even. Are they schizophrenics? How can you be like that in person but write like a lobotomised harridan?

mignonnette · 28/10/2013 09:45

They are scribe-whores. They will write whatever they are paid (commissioned) to write.

oldgrandmama · 28/10/2013 09:57

Just a little pipsqueak from me ... her ex husband DIDN'T put in a claim for equity in her hugely valuable house in Islington when they divorced. To imply he was totally money-grubbing is a bit unfair. He could have but he didn't.

She is pure gold for the Daily Wail - she's hated but we all click onto her to read the latest drivel. And every click means more lovely advertising revenue for the Wail. All my working life I was a journalist - if I'd used my family in the way that she uses hers, especially those dreadful photos of her poor mother, I'd have been instantly fired. The same goes, by the way, for Shona Sibary and her appalling exploitation of her poor kids, complete with photos, in her DM articles.

impty · 28/10/2013 10:04

lobotomised harridan Grin
Phrase of the day!

mignonnette · 28/10/2013 10:07

One only has to remember the car crash of Julie Myerson's documenting of her family life and subsequent play out of estrangement from her son to see what the future holds for Ms Sibary.

Chottie · 28/10/2013 10:28

She does come over a bit jealous, do you think also that SAHM are an easy target?

impty · 28/10/2013 10:34

SAHM's are always going to be a target in the press as the pieces are always written by men and women who work!

quesadilla · 28/10/2013 10:41

Liz Jones has serious issues with mothers of every variety but I actually think working mums get a marginally harder time from her. Just an observation.