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To wonder how people feed babies this revolting stuff day in day out

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moogy1a · 17/10/2013 18:51

Had to give a mindee a jar of food today ( mum particularly wanted her to have it).
it smelt rank and I couldn't bring myself to try it.
Little one wolfed it down though so obviously used to the taste and it wasn't "off".
AIBU to think that except in emergencies babies should be fed food you would be happy to eat yourself ( or is Heinz food particularly revolting?)

OP posts:
flippinada · 19/10/2013 13:21

file MN is very busy but people have been identified on here from posts they've made. I daresay someone could probably work out who I was if they were minded to.

The point is, it's a public forum, it's not like having a private chat with a mate - anyone could be reading.

filee777 · 19/10/2013 13:31

I think the likelihood of this lady being discovered by the parent she is talking about is slim to none. There are lots of childminders giving kids jarred baby food!

Chunderella · 19/10/2013 13:34

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BrianTheMole · 19/10/2013 13:36

If you say so Fillee. But really you have no idea. But what is fact is the op is very identifiable. I personally wouldn't take the risk. Would you?

HaroldLloyd · 19/10/2013 13:37

That's saying its ok to be unprofessional as long as your not found out.

From what I understand the OPs other threads make her relatively easy to be identified, but that's not really the point - it's a breach of trust.

Why use your mindee?

Just no need.

Heartbrokenmum73 · 19/10/2013 13:38

I had backed out of this thread but I feel the need to say (once again) WHY I HAD to feed my dc jarred and powdered food.

*I am not 'lazy'. I am, and have been since having DD, severely depressed. High dosage of ADs and under a psychiatrist for awhile.

Cooking was completely beyond me. It isn't now, although it is a daily struggle.*

People struggling with mental health issues are not 'lazy' and so for anyone (and there have been a few on this thread) to just throw out there that anyone who doesn't stand batch-cooking as lazy beggars belief.

I am good parent who made the choice to feed her dc out of jars. They are now all school. They are healthy, happy, well-adjusted individuals. They are the right weight for their height and all of above-average intelligence.

The nastiness, sneeriness and judging on this thread at first had me angry (I was the one who used the words 'fucking vile' but DID NOT call OP that, rather her attitudes, and I stand by that) now it has me in tears.

Have people actually looked down their noses at me in the supermarket because I've bought jarred food? Seriously? Decided I'm lazy? Without knowing the first thing about me? Just...wow.

So, again, OP, thanks for starting this thread and giving people the chance to make snap judgments about me and people like me. I really appreciate it.

flippinada · 19/10/2013 13:53

Heartbroken try not to take it to heart - of course you are doing your best. Some people are just utterly thoughtless.

I had severe PND myself and recall how getting through the days could be sheer torture. DS was fed from jars a lot- I just couldn't bring myself to cook and hated weaning. He's now 9, healthy, happy and fit, and eats a wide range of food.

You know what though, even if you just wanted to feed from jars because you just plain old don't like cooking or whatever reason, that's fine too. It's not poison fgs!

Heartbrokenmum73 · 19/10/2013 13:56

Thanks Flippin

I got embroiled in this thread yesterday, especially after seeing how much it had upset Westie and all I got in return were obtuse answers and sarcasm from the OP.

I just can't get my head around how people can be so sneery about jars of food! If I was sticking pins in my dc every day, fair play, that's pretty bad parenting (to say the very least) but to label me 'lazy'? Unbelievable.

OP, anything to say about MY situation?

flippinada · 19/10/2013 14:04

I think for some people it's a way of making them feel superior to others. Who knows why they need to do it? You're doing your best and that's all any of us can do, really.

WestieMamma · 19/10/2013 14:25

However, what does annoy me is the fact the FSA still allow jars of first baby food from 4months when babies do not need anything other than breast milk until 6months. This is something that is ongoing though and I hope that soon, all baby food will be labelled from 6months.

The 6 month guideline comes from the WHO and is based on research primarily done on weaning in developing countries in unsanitary conditions. The majority of westernised countries chose not to adopt the 6 month guideline as the research showed it made no difference in their circumstances. Subsequent research indicates that in a developed country waiting until 6 months to wean can in fact be harmful. As a result some of the countries who did adopt the 6 month guideline have now reverted back to the 4 month guideline. That is why the jars say 'from 4 months'.

stinkingbishop · 19/10/2013 14:30

DS was fed almost entirely on baby jars. Like one of the earlier posters, I was 19, and thought that was the correct thing to do! It said baby food on them! Like baby wipes say 'baby wipes'!

Suffice to say, took him to Marcus Wareing for his A level results, so hasn't turned out that bad palate-wise...

DTDs, 18 years later...have created rod for my own back by doing entirely home made food so they won't have ANYTHING shop bought which tbh is a complete bloomin' nightmare when you're running late/travelling etc. I think a healthy balance is the way to go. Plus there are some genuinely good ones eg the Babylicious frozen range. I've finished theirs off when it was point blank refused many a time Smile.

We could just have had a thought provoking debate about the whys and wherefores of baby food, but it's gone all hysterical, and I think a lot (not all) of that is down to the OP's attitude, which IS judgemental, and her (frankly rather scary) comments about it being her choice what she feeds them when she's looking after them. Er, noooo, I repeat. The parents' wishes trump everything. They are the PARENTS. You do what they ask, that's what you're paid to do, and you don't judge (unless it's dangerous, but a jar of baby casserole is not). Does the OP also choose what they wear in her house? Have the right to change the way they talk? Her choice of discipline method? Toilet training?

Giving your precious child to someone else to care for is really REALLY difficult, emotionally and financially. I don't want, on top of that, to suffer the pain of being judged and the constant worry that the CM may flout my parental wishes for my own child.

Mitzyme · 19/10/2013 14:47

Good post Bishop.

moogy1a · 19/10/2013 15:04

what she feeds them when she's looking after them. Er, noooo, I repeat. The parents' wishes trump everything. They are the PARENTS. You do what they ask, that's what you're paid to do, and you don't judge (unless it's dangerous, but a jar of baby casserole is not). Does the OP also choose what they wear in her house? Have the right to change the way they talk? Her choice of discipline method? Toilet training?

You are so wrong. Of course it's my choice what I feed them. I provide the food. The parents are given sample menus and then I feed them MY food every day.
And yes, I choose the discipline methods in MY setting, and I change the way they talk in My setting ( eg. no bad language).
I also do toilet training in My setting ( that's an odd one, should CM's not assist in toilet training?).

Also, where have I flouted the parents' wishes? They wanted to provide the jar as a one off, so I gave the child the jar.. How is that disregarding the parent's wishes?

OP posts:
moogy1a · 19/10/2013 15:05

heartbroken I'm struggling to recall where I called you lazy.

OP posts:
Heartbrokenmum73 · 19/10/2013 15:10

moogy you, specifically, didn't call me lazy, but you've been disparaging throughout this thread about parents feeding their children from jars and this had led to others piling in and having a go at people who do.

Your thread title AIBU to wonder how people feed babies this revolting stuff day in day out is clearly having a go at people who do this.

You finished your original OP with AIBU to think that except in emergencies babies should be fed food you would be happy to eat yourself. So you were clearly out to judge from the word go and yet you keep saying that you are only asking about one jar of Heinz baby food.

If that were the case you could have chosen much, much better wording, and yet you have still to acknowledge that your wording in your title and original OP are poor and that your thread has led to the upset of vulnerable people.

Will you acknowledge that now and ask for your goady thread to be deleted? Or will you let this stand and continue to let people suffering MH issues be disparaged and upset?

Your response (or lack of) will speak volumes.

moogy1a · 19/10/2013 15:14

No. I won't ask for it to be deleted.

I never called anyone lazy and I am perfectly entitled to my opinion ( shared by many others) that jars of baby food are in the main processed shite.
I am going to leave the thread though because I'm getting annoyed by the bullying hysteria going on .
Big thank you to the people who pm'd me expressing support and concern about the level of nasty bullying directed at me.

OP posts:
Heartbrokenmum73 · 19/10/2013 15:16

Well then, you've made your point.

Now I'm going to ask for this thread to be deleted because as you say, there is a lot of bullying in this thread.

And that is against talk guidelines.

moogy1a · 19/10/2013 15:17

We finally agree on something Heartbroken!

OP posts:
Heartbrokenmum73 · 19/10/2013 15:21

Thread reported.

Moogy I have cited my wanting it deleted because it is causing undue upset to sufferers of MH issues and have also included your 'bullying hysteria' comment.

I hope this thread soon goes poof!

filee777 · 19/10/2013 15:28

Mental health issues?

Sorry but thats ludicrous!

Having issues that prevent you from cooking home-cooked meals WHATEVER they are, is fine and your own business.

I didnt cook my son meals and put them in jars to go to nursery with, i BLW'd at home. I have mental health issues too but i dont bandy them around like a 'get out of jail free card' when i want to make someone feel overly bad for not a lot.

Ridiculous, THAT (to me) has been the biggest insult to MH on this thread.

Mumof3xx · 19/10/2013 15:30

My ds1 had the Heinz spag Bol, ravioli, toast, sandwiches and fruit diet for about 3 months because I had awful morning sickness and cooking anything else including jars of baby food made me sick

thebody · 19/10/2013 15:36

good grief, all this over a jar of baby food!!!

it really matters not to he honest.

most parents use jars, packets and cook home made.

so bloody what. kids survive. in the grand scheme of o

thebody · 19/10/2013 15:37

FUCK in the grand scheme of life it really doesn't matter.

flippinada · 19/10/2013 15:41

No it doesn't matter thebody, but some people enjoy goading and stirring the pot - which I suspect was the aim of this thread all along. Job done, I guess.

IsabelleRinging · 19/10/2013 15:54

heartbroken that is so funny. If mumsnet pull this because it is upsetting someone with a mental health issue then they may as well delete the whole site.

If you can't cook a carrot and mash it up for baby or even cook a carrot and give to baby to munch itself, what are you going to feed it when it grows out of baby jars?

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