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To be fucked off that parents not vaccinating their child is risking my childs life?

347 replies

TheGlovesAreOrf · 15/10/2013 20:51

I never judged them before. I never cared, if they chose not to vaccinate their child I always thought it was their choice and its not for me to have an opinion.
I never used to give it much more thought that that. I vaccinate mu children and what others do with theirs is none of my business.

Until I have a child who's immune system is often (but not always, steroid use) compramised. He is more likely to pick up bugs, and not deal with them very well.

He is also allergic to many things. I know tha egg allergy isnt usually an issue, but the MMR is cultivated on egg albumin. He is allergic to egg (anaphylactic) chicken meat, and feathers. The whole caboodle. Im pretty sure his tiny body wont like egg albumin either.

He's due to have this vaccine very very soon in hospital and Im absolutely shitting myself. Every time I remember it my stomach drops and my heart races.

Im genuinely thinking, what if he dies?

I cant get the vaccines done individually because the private clinics wont touch me with a barge pole.

I cant risk leaving it (Ive left it 18 months so far) because the area I live in has a very low MMR rate.

And that really, really angers me. Probably irrationally so.

I should be able to leave it. My son should be protected by societies use of the MMR.

Instead I either have to risk him getting an illness, or risk giving him this injection.

As if he hasnt been enough already.

I know IABU, but I just feel very resentful and angry towards those who choose not to vaccine right now.

More than prepared to be flamed for this.

OP posts:
ubik · 15/10/2013 22:09

OP I don't think you are being unreasonable at all.

PrimalLass · 15/10/2013 22:11

The same America where children get gunned down in schools that now have to have security guards. A country that thinks its citizens should have personal freedom to bear arms but not to opt out of vaccinations.

That the most ridiculous analogy I've ever heard PrimalLass!

How is it ridiculous? My friend lived in CA and said they were so freaked by these childhood illnesses that a case of chickenpox would make the state news. I find it crazy that they can have such double standards about which civil liberties they support.

CoteDAzur · 15/10/2013 22:14

Mangrove - Like you, I had all childhood diseases and so did all my peers, relatives, friends, and their friends. I had measles twice, actually - once as a baby, and then at the age of 8.

"my worry for those that have no opportunity to get these illnesses and who are not vaccinated as children is these illnesses are all so much worse when contracted as an adult"

I agree.

nennypops · 15/10/2013 22:16

YANBU. Yes, there are children who are at risk from vaccine and they should not have to be vaccinated. But they are really a tiny minority. The rest of our children should be vaccinated in order to protect that minority, and indeed for their own good. It really is not so long since children died or were seriously brain damaged as a result of getting measles, and I certainly could see no point in risking that for my children.

2tiredtocare · 15/10/2013 22:17

So you are disproportionately worried about adverse vaccination effects but feel able to dismiss measles deaths out of hand cote very odd

MrsDeVere · 15/10/2013 22:17

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Dementedhousewife · 15/10/2013 22:18

The Glovesareoff, my sister is severely damaged by a vaccination, she suffered a sudden collapse within minutes of the jab, she was left brain damaged and has suffered from a rare chronic form of Guilliane Barre syndrome ever since. We chose not to vaccinate our DC. It happens thankfully its rare but it happens. I won't vaccinate my DC.
There are other parents on this site who have also suffered vaccine damage maybe you should consider their children too.

PumpkinGuts · 15/10/2013 22:18

if the individual vaccine is Ok why can't you get it as a prescription because of your dc allergy?

puntasticusername · 15/10/2013 22:18

I am confused by those saying op is being hypocritical by not getting her own child vaccinated.

Er. Yes, she is. Read the post!

OP, YANBU.

CoteDAzur · 15/10/2013 22:18

"The rest of our children should be vaccinated in order to protect that minority"

That is an ethically indefensible position: Arguing that a tiny baby should take a risk (albeit very small) for the sake of someone else.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/10/2013 22:19

The Op is not being hypocritical

The Ops child has anaphylactic reactions to the constituent parts of a chicken. It is perfectly reasonable, and scientifically sound, to suspect that he may have an adverse reactions to an albumen containing vaccine.

Many, many people who do not vaccinate do not make this decision because of sound medical reasons. They fail to vaccinate because they are lazy, or were misled about the mmr autism link.

The Op and others who have sound medical reasons not to vaccinate are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Everyone else who fails to vaccinate is being ignorant and selfish.

Bowlersarm · 15/10/2013 22:19

I don't think you should force people to do this.

I'm sorry. I know it's not a popular mn viewpoint.

Dementedhousewife · 15/10/2013 22:20

Exactly Cote, I won't take that risk for someone elses child. Sorry my children are my priority.

TheGlovesAreOrf · 15/10/2013 22:21

As I said above Pumpkin, no where will do it privately. The NHS dont do it. And the Mumps single vaccine doesnt exist anyway.

OP posts:
dementedma · 15/10/2013 22:23

Sorry op, but their child, their choice.
We chose not to have Ds vaccinated as he was born at the height of the MMR scare. Not a decision we took lightly, believe me. He finally had the vaccine before starting high school last year at the age of 11. Again not a decision we took lightly.
I am sorry your Ds is ill but like any parents, we make decisions based on what we believe is best for our son, not someone else's. As you do.

TheGlovesAreOrf · 15/10/2013 22:23

Bowler I agree, I dont think anyone should be forced. I didnt say they should have to be.

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ubik · 15/10/2013 22:25

FWIW I know two people who have not vaccinated their children - one on advice from her herbalist Hmm and my cousin's girlfriend who wants to keep everything natural - Y'know natural like smallpox Hmm

StillSlightlyCrumpled · 15/10/2013 22:25

Agree totally with MrsD. DS2 has a compromised immune system. He was vaccinated very late & I was very concerned when measles was local to us. However, I also save my fury & frustration for the parents that insist on sending their poorly infectious child to school / clubs etc where he is likely to catch whatever they have.

CoteDAzur · 15/10/2013 22:27

Yes, OP's child is allergic. And other people's children have other problems and/or have certain allergies/health problems/relevant antecedents.

I understand why OP is "fucked off" but that doesn't give her the right to tell other parents they have to vaccinate their children to reduce risks for hers.

TheGlovesAreOrf · 15/10/2013 22:33

cote Im not saying those who have allergic kids/kids with health issues should vaccinate their child for the sake of mine.

I clearly stated that I think healthy children not at risk should be vaccinated to protect those at risk.

Whats not to get? Its not getting in there though, is it cote?

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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/10/2013 22:35

Cote

No it isn't and being patronising doesn't strengthen your point.

FortyDoorsToNowhere · 15/10/2013 22:36

Any injection carries risk.

When DC had the MMR I decided the risk was worth taking, I work in a hospital and as I am not medical staff I am not told what infections a patient has. Also I planned to send my DC to school. I felt that my children was higher at risk from these infections so for me it was a sensible risk

To some the risk is not worth it for their child.

ubik · 15/10/2013 22:36

Well it does give her the right Cote. What right do these people have to not to vaccinate their healthy children so that these diseases can eradicated? www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs114/en/

She has the best reason to be angry.

missinglalaland · 15/10/2013 22:37

YANBU.
My children are fully vaccinated.

Bowlersarm · 15/10/2013 22:37

OP that was quite rude to cote.

I know it's heart wrenching for you, but I really don't think you should be able to dictate who makes their children have the vaccination.