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To hope ruby leaves tonight...

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Chippednailvarnish · 15/10/2013 20:31

And that Mel slaps her?

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chocoluvva · 23/10/2013 21:04

I do think it's amazing that there has been such a massive volume of criticism of her and I can't believe I'm joining in - as Mintyy says, she's only 20 (possibly 21?). I just found her incredibly annoying. I've never felt like that about any of the other contestants.

I'd like a change of judges too Grin

valiumredhead · 23/10/2013 21:06

She's not a girl, she's a 21 year old woman. I find all the 'poor young thing' really patronising.

I'm off to read the article...

valiumredhead · 23/10/2013 21:07

Bickie-the OP was coining a
Sue's phrase that she said on the show repeatedly.

valiumredhead · 23/10/2013 21:08

Random 'a' there, bloody phoneHmm

Mintyy · 23/10/2013 21:10

I don't think she's a "poor young thing". I think she is fab!

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Chippednailvarnish · 23/10/2013 21:10

Are we watching the same show Bickie?!?!?

Ruby actually asked Mel to slap her whilst she was in the middle of one of her never ending epic moans. Or do you not actually have any idea about the show we are discussing?

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ILetHimKeep20Quid · 23/10/2013 21:13

Jeez o.

How much energy can some people put into defending their hate for someone on a baking show? She doesn't owe you lot anything, she isn't obliged to be a personality, she was there as she was clearly a good baker.

ubik · 23/10/2013 21:14

I think th wine-soaked bitter brigade is fairly accurate Grin

ILetHimKeep20Quid · 23/10/2013 21:15

Me too! Some people are coming across quite badly.

bickie · 23/10/2013 21:25

Yes - I do realise it was in reference to the joke between her and Mel. Just seems off thing to say about someone in particular - and did start a chain of pretty awful comments.

chocoluvva · 23/10/2013 21:39

See, Chipped has it in a nutshell for me too if she wins I'll be irrationally pissed off.

Note the 'irrationally', but still the irritation.

Actually I think it's because she didn't go along with the sense of fun that most of the other contestants have. She sort of lowered the tone of the show. Ironically given that she is clearly a clever sort.

chocoluvva · 24/10/2013 09:44

A summary of Ruby criticisms - she's "tedious to watch", (because of her manner), "infuriatingly negative", "stroppy cow", "childish", "like a petulant child", "irritating", "too 'poor me'", "irritating", "so miserable.....it's pretty depressing watching her", "irritating to watch with all her moping"

One poster called her a "shithead" Sad. It wasn't the OP. I can't speak for the other media coverage and comments (haven't seen it).

Seems like some people need to get a ruddy grip Grin. Myself included - must go and do something useful.

Pachacuti · 24/10/2013 13:17

"I am still wondering why this particular thread is vile, though. As opposed to the vileness on Apprentice threads or other 'talent' shows on TV.

The double standard is really very interesting!"

It's only a double standard if they are the same posters. Plenty of people watch GBBO who don't watch The Apprentice or 'talent' shows (and who therefore don't participate in those threads). It's perfectly plausible that what you have here is, instead, people stepping from real life into a threads full of the current cultural norms for discussion of televised competitions and being shocked by what they find there.

NoComet · 24/10/2013 13:28

No I don't watch Xfactor, Britain's bot talent, big brother or the apprentice.

Because they are clearly stage managed to generate nastiness.

I guess I'd hoped that GBBO might manage to be slightly more civilised.

However, I should have known bullying twats get everywhere.

chocoluvva · 24/10/2013 13:31

Ah. That would explain the accusations of 'vileness' and 'vitriol'. I don't see how anyone could say that criticising the behaviour of a contestant on a televised competition is a nice thing to do, but the accusations of hate, bitterness etc seem a bit strong.

I wouldn't mind so much, but a few of the posters (including me) have even acknowledged that their reaction to this person as broadcast, is probably over the top ....

The OP herself used the word 'irrationally' about herself. I was delighted to see this thread as I'd been feeling mean about being so irritated by a young contestant. It was nice to know I wasn't the only one.

No way I'd ever do anything on the telly - faar too sensitive Grin

HeadsDownThumbsUp · 24/10/2013 19:02

"But she does slightly spoil the programme for me. Eg, when she commented that getting married is a narcissistic thing to do I felt like I was back in sixth form with the 'cool' crew who were desperately trying to appear sophisticated and cynical. I just can't be bothered with that sort of thing now - it's not what I'm watching GBBO for. I'm married! I don't appreciate someone three years older than my DD accusing me of being narcissistic."

Um, she's entitled to her views. Or isn't she? How dare she express opinions which spoil your enjoyment of a baking competition...

Why should she give a shit whether or not you're married.

chocoluvva · 25/10/2013 09:43

She wasn't asked her opinion of marriage/weddings - she was asked about her choice of cake in the event of her having a wedding.

I wonder if her mum is married. Or any of her relations/neighbours/lecturers.... Does she think they're narcissistic too?

The producers chose to include that (unasked for) opinion though so they must have thought it would make good tv. I prefer the jolly style and seeing contestants who you feel wouldn't be on a public medium were it not for their impressive baking skills.

HeadsDownThumbsUp · 27/10/2013 11:27

So what if she does think they're narcissistic? She's entitled to her opinion. And so what if it was an "unasked for" opinion.

Is she supposed to be seen and not heard?

chocoluvva · 27/10/2013 13:00

It's a baking competition presented in a light-hearted way. I can hear Ruby -type of talk on Waterloo Road.

But as I said, the producers chose to keep it in...

chocoluvva · 27/10/2013 13:05

Am I not entitled to my opinion? That she was very irritating on GBBO?

Or to agree with the OP?

If she's sufficiently thick-skinned to voice unasked-for criticisms of beloved social institutions she'll cope with being criticised for being moany.

ForalltheSaints · 27/10/2013 13:23

Come back Delia and Nigella, all is forgiven!

SilverOldie · 27/10/2013 13:58

I'm really pleased that Francis won, I think she's a delight. Equally pleased that Ruby didn't. No, I don't hate her since I don't know her, but have really disliked her negativity and simpering.

A definite YES to Delia but please not the Lawson woman, ugh.

nennypops · 27/10/2013 16:09

This thread would never have been started if Ruby had showed the personality that she displayed in her Guardian article in the actual competition and the rest of her bakes had of been to the standard of last night's picnic basket.

Precisely how do you know what her bakes were like? You didn't taste them, and producing things that tasted good was one of her strong points. However, two people who are experts both saw and tasted what she produced, and made her star baker three times. So just perhaps she fully deserved to be in the final.

nennypops · 27/10/2013 16:10

Is her flat in London? Em, one of the most expensive cities in the world.

Isn't that because her university is in London?

chocoluvva · 27/10/2013 19:01

My point about her saying how she had to practise her baking in her tiny flat + multiple moany sessions, is that it seemed like she was complaining about being poor or disadvantaged (compared to the other contestants). Which is a bit tiresome. Because if you choose to be a student in one of the most expensive cities in the world you can't really expect to be able to afford to live in spacious accommodation, usually. Therefore, don't complain about it please. It was yet another example of her 'negativity', to quote another poster.