To think teachers are actually better off than those in the private sector

[coco44]

(Mumsnet Bosses
Please may I rephrase the debate in a more measured way)

[YouAreMyFavouriteWasteOfTime]

So you get paid a small fortune to stick your arm up cows' arses?

fannies.

[Ihatespiders]

A bovine vet? So you get shat on and stepped on and mooed at?

Sounds like a day in many schools my dear.

[thebody]

sorry op but a bovine vet? what a fucking boring job. sorry to be rude but Jesus wept. can see why you are bitter to be fair.

[YouAreMyFavouriteWasteOfTime]

coco do you stick your arms up cows arses or fannies?

on the archers its always fannies....

[Johnny5needsinput]

Moosic, moothematics, Bov-ology, germoon, what else?

[YouAreMyFavouriteWasteOfTime]

coco do you work with cows that live on grass or agribusiness cows?

[MadameLeBean]

Teachers "clients" are .. The government . That's the problem - look at private schools - the clients are the parents/children

[MadameLeBean]

Not denying that teachers work hard btw

[cantthinkofagoodone]

The public sector has lower salaries but greater benefits than the private sector. It should be viewed as a whole package.

The private sector should level up towards the benefits provided in the public sector. As it stands, poverty in retirement is going to be terrible for a lot of people, when they actually get to retire.

Op, I hope you're not passing your lack of respect for teachers onto your kids. They will be a nightmare to teach but only marginally more so than most 13 year olds

[natwebb79]

Arf at the word 'fannies'.

[mirry2]

There are some very purile comments being aimed at coco44.

[YouAreMyFavouriteWasteOfTime]

yes and I am slightly proud of mine...

did you see the OP's thread that preceded this one?

[chicaguapa]

if I treated my clients the way, teachers are treating theirs, I wouldn't have a business

If Gove treats his employees this way, he won't have any teachers. And then the taxpayer is going to be even more pissed off as there won't be any decent free state education. Which is one of the things the public sector is supposed to provide!

So how about sticking some responsibility back onto the employer who doesn't give a flying fuck about his employees or his clients!

[sonlypuppyfat]

It's very wrong to be nasty to a teacher, it makes them sad.

[PurpleGirly]

A vet's starting salary is said to be £30k+ on various websites.

[mirry2]

The one point they were adamant about was that they didn't want to be taught by 68yr old teachers and felt it would be detrimental to their education to raise teachers' retirement age.

Jellycake you do realise that you are perpetuating ageist attitudes, don't you? I really don't like the idea that you have been engaging year 11s in a discussion of your proposed strike even if you have tried to do so in an evenhanded way.

[janey68]

You could always apply for a post grad teaching course and become a biology teacher OP . If you could hack it.

[Johnny5needsinput]

Do you do ministry work op?

[mirry2]

coco44 is one person. You are all ganging up against her like a pack of wolves.

[PurpleGirly]

Mirry have you read the thread, her comments and those on the precious thread that were deleted ?

[PurpleGirly]

Previous not precious!

[echt]

Why on earth shouldn't Jellycake discuss her industrial action with her students? It's legal, isn't it?

[Johnny5needsinput]

I am expressing my own opinion. I am asking the op questions. I am not a part of any pack.

[PurpleGirly]

You also don't know the context in which jelly cake had her discussion - a politics lesson, PSHE etc.