I mean, who has the time to piddle on , day after day, on a forum. I thought having a family, working, commuting, diy, housework, gardening etc kept most people pretty busy. You lot must either be lazy, minted stay at homes with maids/housekeepers/nannies or slatternly mares with filthy homes, unkempt gardens and wonky fences (like me). Discuss with extreme vigour (might be the only exercise you get today if you've been tiddling around on the intetnet for hours). Gwan, be brutally honest.