Do I give this information to crime stoppers?

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Ok, I've just found something alarming out and am in a bit of a tizz.
Back story is I have a history of drug addiction.
Someone I know has started selling cocaine, I found out by accident and clearly it wasn't meant for me to hear due to back story, but nonetheless I now have this info.

This person has children who are in contact with my DD through school, clubs etc.

Given I'm clearly not in a position to be judgemental as I have messy history with this drug, I still find it wrong.

Would you report?

dahlen you are right on a few aspects about alternative drugs and defining pushing.

There are some terribly terribly bad drugs creeping in to our society, coke,pills and smack seem like toffees compared to them.

Krocodil, meow meow,meth and other 'dirty' drugs are making a name for them selfs in the UK and they are SO cheap.

It doesn't really matter if the dealer isn't 'pushing them' the fact that they are making illegal drugs available is abhorrent. Would the poster who says there is a difference, like it if their child was knocking on and 'asking' for it?

The OP knows the effects and consequences of being high on coke, if she her self is an addict (as you all ways are!!) I bet she has been in some fucking tricky/hairy situations as you don't sit around with the P.T.A discussing charity bake offs when your coked out your head. She should remember those memories and wonder if she would be so inclined to sit back and keep her nose out if it was her DD who she was apparently worried about at the beginning was getting ready to have a big fat rock star line!

Dahen you can get half a gram for £15/20 where I am. That a fiver each. Which most teenagers have or more at a weekend. Its a line each for the beginning of the night. Which is ample for a young teenager.

Its not about drinking cider round the back of the shops any more. Parents are NOT aware how readily available drugs are.

I was talking to some girls in year 10 that smoke weed before school!!!

whatever and the dealers that handle the drug coke, smack..what ever are such stella people that you can really trust them not to put shit in the drugs when they have cut it to make their profit all the while cutting it again for your self--

pha ha ha an honest and caring drug dealer

cocaine is cheaper than it was 30 years ago. i'm sure it isn't very pure or 'good' but it is cheap despite it still having the image as being a high-end, champagne drug.

Current research shows one of the most worrying links between drug trafficking and other crimes is the funding or terrorism (extensive United Nations research into this area).

Likewise, the links with human trafficking are established. Quite often, it is the same people trafficking both, and many vulnerable illegal immigrants will be coerced into carrying drugs as the price for their journey.

Granted, that end of the chain is far, far removed from your typical end user, but they are connected.

No, of course if my child or anybody close to me was knocking and asking for drugs I wouldn't like that they were being dealt to.
However, my priority would be dealing with the persons addiction, the users are just as much to blame as the dealers IMO.

If I walked into my local pub on a weeken night I would be able to point out at least 50% of the punters in there that are users. If thier dealer stopped dealing, they would find another one, and so on. If there was no demand for it (ie no users) then there would be no dealers.

And I really doubt that cocaine is cheaper than alcohol. Yeah maybe its cheaper than high end brands of alcohol but when I was a "party girl" a couple of years ago, it was alot cheaper for me to buy a lot of alcohol than it was to buy a gram or 2 of coke.

It's a silly myth that drug dealers are looking for kids.

Who cares if someone sells a product to a consenting adult? And cocaine is 50 GPB/gram in London anyway. Not cheap.

lj88 how old was you when you was a party girl? It really depends on where you live/ associate. Just because that was your experience of drug taking don't be do blinkard you think that what it's like all over.

There is all ways drugs in popular pubs/clubs the bouncers/door men supply/control most of it.

Being a party girl is a lot different than teenagers/ young people taking drugs... Which they do because it is cheap .

a silly myth that drug dealers go looking for children -- I suppose you don't believe that young people/ secondary children sell drugs either .

who care is some one sells drugs to a consenting adult. - some people are so fucking stupid.

I care when the consenting adult is crying there eyes out because they think there LO has swollowed a pill that was left over, or a young girl is devastated because she was sexually molested while under the influence of drugs and she is only 15. Because people who take drugs are responsible right. It's a responsible choice to take drugs?

It's not even recreational drugs parents need to be aware of. There is a growing trend of year 10/11 selling steroids for the gym. If young people want something they will get.

Get it .

Thanks for the comments, I think the only thing that's holding me back from reporting is the fact that it will probably come back that she knew it was me, and I cannot deal with confrontation.
I wish I had the strength to do the right thing and not care who knew it was me :-(

"who care is some one sells drugs to a consenting adult. - some people are so fucking stupid."

Amen to that, shouldistay.

I wonder what the two little girls, daughters of a man I knew, were told when his coke using and dealing got him a 5 year prison sentence or how the 21 stitches he had to have to his face for pissing the big guys off were explained away to them?

He was nearly 50 when it happened. A consenting adult, so who cares?

Two little kids who had done nothing to deserve that shit, that's who care, and that's why we should too.

Dahlen, you speak much sense as well.

Counsellor thinks it would be wrong of me to ignore this
Your counsellor is highly unprofessional to give you his/her opinion on the matter! A counsellor is there only to help you to come to your own decisions and most certainly not to influence you in any way.

I think you're in a tricky situation as the dealer now knows that you know, so she may suspect you if you inform. Weighing up the pros and cons I fall marginally on the side of keeping quiet for now because of the possible fallout should she (or someone she knows) come knocking on your door. But I think you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.

Flumpy - I know we're all contributing to this thread still, but I think the debate has moved on to a wider debate about drugs and society, not your particular situation. If it's proving too difficult for you to read, no right-minded person would judge you for stepping away from the thread. You have to protect yourself first.

I don't think you need to worry about being 'outed' if you reported this, because quite honestly on its own it's not enough information to result in any consequences soon enough for the connection with your text message to occur to anyone. Also, if your acquaintance is that careless and that prolific, it will only be a matter of time before it becomes common knowledge that you can get x, y, z from XXX, which local intelligence will pick up eventually anyway.

But you have to judge your own situation and your own personal safety, and your wellbeing comes first, not the attitudes of strangers on a thread.

Good luck for your continuing recovery. Please don't let this drag you down. You should be holding your head up high and feeling very proud of what you've achieved.

I can't believe how many drug apologists there are on this thread. I can only assume that they are users or in fact dealing themselves.

Cocaine is illegal and for good reasons. Just because some think it shouldn't be doesn't make dealing it any less wrong. Drugs destroy lives, and anyone turning a blind eye to someone dealing them is complicit.

No not all drug dealers push to children. But the thing is, you have no way of knowing whether someone does or doesn't. But all drug dealers have ultimate connections to some pretty unpleasant individuals. I wouldn't want my children playing with the children of a drug dealer, purely because you have no idea what connections that drug dealer has and whether my (or their) children are at risk at any time.

If this woman goes to jail she has no-one to blame but herself.

If her children are taken into care she has no-one to blame but herself.

Drug dealing is not a victimless crime - far from it. Would people on this thread be advocating not reporting someone for being an accessory to murder for instance? Because it's not that far removed - people are killed in the name of drugs. Drug users commit violent crime in order to find the money for their next fix, and the drug dealers are there to supply the users who have become addicted to the substances they provide, regardless of whether they have personally pushed them or not.

Oet's not kid ourselves that drug dealers are nice people - they're not.

Op - you have a legal and moral duty to report this woman. Not doing so is irresponsible.

I gave up my party days about 2 years ago.

I'm not a drug apologist. Nor am I a user and certainly not a dealer.

I have used cocaine as a party drug (and I know there is a much bigger picture than that with cocaine) and actually am very anti drugs now.

However I can't just blame the dealers, I blame the users as well.

No, alot of dealers are not nice people but many of them are nice people aside of thier extremely bad choice of income!

As I said, I had to deal with my dad being in prison for dealing and it was horrible. I can't blame anybody but him for that. But he's not a nasty person, he's still my dad and I love him to bits.

In fact just this morning I had to deal with him crying because he felt he was such a bad father to me and my brother when we were younger.

He wasent a bad father, he just made some very bad choices.

^No, alot of dealers are not nice people but many of them are nice people aside of thier extremely bad choice of income!

As I said, I had to deal with my dad being in prison for dealing and it was horrible. I can't blame anybody but him for that. But he's not a nasty person, he's still my dad and I love him to bits.

In fact just this morning I had to deal with him crying because he felt he was such a bad father to me and my brother when we were younger.

He wasent a bad father, he just made some very bad choices^

I'm sorry but he put drugs before you so he was a bad father and also greedy for easy money. Bad choice if income ?! Fucking hell he wasn't a traffic warden! You clearly have been conditioned around drugs and haven't grown up.

I have grown up, I had to grow up when my father was put in prison and I had to cope and learn to understand something at an age I shouldn't have had to be dealing with that sort of crap.

No, his choices were bad but as a father he has always provided for, loved, cared and cherished us as children, teenagers and adults.

He made a very very big mistake and served a prison sentence for it. Emotionally he is still paying his price now.

I will never and have never condone what he did. But how can you, as someone who doesn't know him, say he is a bad father.

I have known fathers who have never been involved in any illegal activity but have been pretty shit fathers all round.

Lj8893, how did your father manage to provide for you when he was in prison?

While he was dealing, did he provide for you out of the profits? Profits made perhaps at the expense of the welfare of other peoples children?

If a woman came on here and said she was loathe to leave her lawbreaking husband because she didn't want to be a bad mother and break up her family she would immediately be told by all MN that she would not be the one responsible for breaking up the family, he was, by his unacceptable behaviour and that he was the bad parent.

It's not enough just to provide for your children, nor is it loving them to set them the example as a dealer, risk their security and ultimately get locked up away from them because of it.

Sorry, but there it is, in my humble opinion.

I think what should said is true. He did but it before you and your brother when he shouldn't have.thats probably why he feels so bad now, but can understand you defending your dad. I adored mine and would have defended him no matter what.

I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but he did choose drugs money over you. Most normal fathers wouldn't do that.

Most normal fathers wouldn't sell drugs with no idea who is going to end up taking them. People that drive cars under the influence and kill some one, rapes, over doses , seizures, brain hemorage am sorry but your dad shedding tears and feeling guilty to you pales to the damage he dosnt know he has caused.

lj he was a bad father, but we are often conditioned not to think so.

The fact you personally became involved with drugs and now still do not see the wrong in them seems to indicate that you cannot see the wrong in drugs...

He dealt for less than a year.
When I knew he was dealing i refused money from him, so yes in that period he didn't support us.
When he was in prison he had items that we sold at his request to make some money which helped provide for us.

Like I said, I don't blame anyone else but him and he knows and accepts that. He only blames himself too.

So yes for less than a year he was in a desperate place, and turned to dealing as it stupidly seemed an "easy" way to make money fast and therefore yes, he put that before me and my brother.

But I still stand by my statement that he is not a bad father.