to think if you can't control a primary school class without constantly bellowing you are not cut out to be a teacher?

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I gave up volunteering at DD's school because I was fed up of the teachers constantly shouting at the generally well-behaved kids. Not all the teachers, there were a couple of good ones who knew how to engage children and keep the classroom calm.

DD has been back at school a couple of weeks and is already worn down by the shouty teacher she's been lumbered with.

We're not a "delicate" family so she's not being a wimp, just fed up of trying her hardest but having to listen to her teacher bellow at the kids because she clearly has poor behaviour management skills.

AIBU to think shouty teachers should find another career?

I have never shouted at a child, but I raise my voice. My form class are the loveliest bunch of kids you could wish to meet, but there is no way I can make myself heard over 30 of them when they come in from lunch all full of E numbers.

There is a difference between shouting and being loud - many children perceive being loud as shouting.

Cardibach it was more anecdote than advice I think you will find, and you will see that I said,'If you don't do the assignment you won't get the mark'.Even today that is probably true.
Sometimes oldfashioned strategies work if only because they are unexpected.Pupils have always responded better to a soft voice than to a shout.

As an escaped primary teacher after many years, now working in a very nice secondary school, I suspect that shaking an egg timer or clapping would be met with derision in anything above year 4! Try teaching a full class every day, not just being a helper, then you can criticise. It is very sad that most of the young people I know who have gone into teaching, leave after a few years because of the workload and behaviour in many schools.

I was a teacher, wispa, "not just a helper" but I actually think any parent can criticise a professional who works with their child.

"If there are lots of shouty teachers at ops school may be the kids are very difficult there or smt are not good"

Kids at school are not very difficult - many teachers can only dream of having such well-behaved kids and supportive parents. Am having serious doubts about SMT though.

YANBU - I totally agree. Shouting doesn't do anything to improve children's behaviour. My dd had a shouty teacher in year 3 and none of the other teachers that she's had have been like her. I always felt this teacher (although nice) would probably be better suited to a different career and indeed she left recently for a new career.