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to think that Rachel Manning's mother was poorly advised in her statement to the media?

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Mintyy · 05/09/2013 13:56

It goes without saying that I have the utmost sympathy for her and everything she has been through. I can only think that her grief has affected her judgement, though Sad.

Most of her statement is devoted to praising the police (who oversaw two terrible miscarriages of justice) and she seems to be complaining about the re-trials she has had to attend. Then she makes a very dubious comment about her dd's boyfriend, and no acknowledgement at all (as far as I could see) that two men spent a considerable amount of time in prison for a crime they did not commit.

As I said, I feel dreadful for this woman. But was it wrong of her to make that comment about Barri White? and not to acknowledge that they were very wronged too?

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WiddleAndPuke · 06/09/2013 18:01

Mindmaps - good point.

babybarrister · 06/09/2013 19:49

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Mintyy · 06/09/2013 20:17

Are you a barrister babybarrister?

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candycoatedwaterdrops · 06/09/2013 20:28

I wonder how Barri White's mother feels. I'm not saying her pain is comparable to Manning's mother but she must be devastated too.

Mindmaps · 06/09/2013 20:46

Honestly I think her pain is comparable. She watched her son convicted of murder and be put in jail for 6years she has heard how if the police had been more thorough, this was needless, and looking forward what sort of life her innocent son will have and what he has lost ,is yes comparable as she has had to watch his agony and pain in real life and will have had to listen to what Rachel's mother has said about him and seams to have had the grace not to reply.

babybarrister · 07/09/2013 09:37

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forehead · 07/09/2013 12:16

What she said was wrong.

bwhite · 27/12/2015 04:16

Hi I'm barri white I don't blame Rachel's mum for her comment but where we split up and went in our own directions was right next to the night club we was at that nite I watched her walk towards the club as I said no one can beat them self's up more than I have beat myself up about not goin back to the club wiv her but if Liz needs to blame me to help her past this then let her blame me my life since I got out is bin ok I have 4 kids a6 year old twins who r 3 and a 6 month old baby I got compensation but was mugged off by the government my co-defendant who got 5 years and done 2 and half for perverting the course of justice I got life done six years for murdering my girlfriend the government gave him 10 grand more than I got I feel like I haven't had my justice but wat do I do

fidel1ne · 27/12/2015 05:46

Hi Barry, What was the reason given for your co-accused getting a whole £10k more? That's quite shocking.

How did you find this thread? Is the whole horrible thing playing on your mind this morning?

derxa · 27/12/2015 06:25

I'm hoping you really are Barri. What prompted you to post here?

TonySopranosVest · 27/12/2015 07:26
Shock
Ladycrazycat · 27/12/2015 07:50

Hi Barri, I'm sorry that you have been through all of this. From dealing with a complaint myself to the CPS/police about something, I imagine any apology you have been given feels pretty hollow, especially when the compensation award has differed so much between you and your co-accused.

I'm not sure if you have posted just to explain that you don't feel Rachel's mother should have anyone criticise her for her statement or if you are hoping for support yourself on here.

If it is support you are looking for then maybe start a fresh thread in a seperate area of the site as this section can be quite nasty at times. You may also want to post more anonymously with vague details of your situation, not because you should have to but just because journalists from the likes of the Daily Mail sometimes look for stories on here.

Enjolrass · 27/12/2015 07:58

I feel for her, I really do.

I really feel for Barrie though. It's not over for him. It's never over when this has happened to you.

I have a relative that this happened to. 13 years later, after convicting the right people he still finds people who don't believe him. So many people think he must have been involved somehow. They believe the police can't have possibly got it that wrong. They believe that the police are never lazy or make mistakes.

It will follow him forever.

A statement like this is usually wrote out and planned in advance. My relative had two statements prepared. They took 3 months to plan out. What she said was wrong. Barri was not to blame on anyway. She is still trying to sit some of the blame at his door. And that is wrong. Regardless of her loss, it's wrong to do so.

She could have released a statement without mentioning him. She could have chose to decline doing a statement and so not be 'paraded' by the press. She could have chose to not include him at all. She has suffered terrible loss, but she shouldn't have done this.

What if Barri had come out and blame Rachel for storming off?

hesterton · 27/12/2015 08:00

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Sansoora · 27/12/2015 08:03

I think there are times we can read something in the press and let it go.

This was one of those times.

Enjolrass · 27/12/2015 08:04

Barri there are people out there that will help you get justice. It's a long road full of closed doors. It took us 13 years and several investigations, but we won.

Having had a relative go through this and have to watch was one of the most painful things I have been through and affected everyday of our lives.

hesterton · 27/12/2015 08:13

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WhoTheFuckIsSimon · 27/12/2015 08:15

If you google Rachel Mannings name then this thread is on the first couple of pages of hits. So no suprise really that people connected with her have found the thread. I imagine her poor mum has read it. Sad

Ubik1 · 27/12/2015 08:29

I think her mother was honest an md what she said was not shocking at all.

I think it's petty to highlight the words of this woman who has been through more than any of us can imagine.

If you want some nice comms where mother makes a rousing, noble speech about miscarriages of justice then why not stick to dramas on rejection which will deliver the response you want, target than real life where people say what they actually feel.

Jeezo, of all the self righteous nonsense I've read on mumsnet, this is up there it really is...

Ubik1 · 27/12/2015 08:30

Rejection? Television- thanks autocorrect

BrandNewAndImproved · 27/12/2015 08:40

Barry report your post and ask for it to be deleted before a journalist takes their own spin on it and misquotes you.

10k difference is a bitter pill to swallow, it must feel like another miscarriage of justice. I hope your getting on with your life.

jevoudrais · 27/12/2015 08:50

Sounds like she has spent years blaming White and is clinging on to be able to continue to do so (coping mechanism?).

I have never gone out if I haven't felt confident there were enough friends for me to stay in a group. Especially if a lot of drinking going on. I don't know how she can know it was his fault eg. Maybe there was a reason he went/maybe they became separated by accident. Sounds like a grieving parent clinging on to blame. As another poster said, the man now in prison is the only person to blame for that lady's DD's death.

whattheseithakasmean · 27/12/2015 09:05

Well, Barry will get financial compensation and the ability to get on with his life. Rachael's family will get very little financial support and will never get over her murder. I think posters here have a severe empathy deficit in the face of a bereaved mothers grief. However, your poisonous opinions will mean fuck all to a woman who has lost the most precious person in her life, so feel free to keep spouting them. But be aware you sound like a nasty flock of grief vultures picking over a poor bereaved woman's personal views and finding them wanting. Vile.

Sansoora · 27/12/2015 09:12

I think posters here have a severe empathy deficit in the face of a bereaved mothers grief.

Some of the sanctimonious self righteous crap posted on this thread just beggars belief. There was no need for it ever to be started. There are times when things are best left unsaid.

Crankycunt · 27/12/2015 09:39

It's a massive 'what if' hanging over Rachael Manning's mothers head. It's a what if that will eat at her for the rest of her days, and will compound her grief. No one has the right in my opinion to chastise her for saying this. Some things are best left unsaid and the criticism for her saying it is one of those things.

Barri, if you are reading this, the miscarriage of justice that you have been through, well I cant comprehend it, I hope you are receiving support and advice. Like a previous poster has said, ask for your comment to be deleted there is the potential for it to be twisted in the press.