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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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"they ate fast food and junk food but had splashed out of a plasma TV."

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ConfusedPixie · 27/08/2013 08:38

This comment just came up on the radio news, supposedly said by Jamie Oliver about one of the families he was working with in his new TV show.

AIBU to wonder how the fuck what you eat relates to what TV you have?

Surely this just reinforces stereotypes of the people likely to have bad diets through lack of education on the matter? What a bullshit statement.

OP posts:

OhDearNigel · 28/08/2013 19:35

Maybe we could start a mumsnet campaign to equip bedsit dwellers with slowcookers and breadmakers

chibi · 28/08/2013 19:37

maybe we could start an MN campaign to equip nosey fuckers with empathy

swallowedAfly · 28/08/2013 19:37

yes i think to be fair it is the utter unpleasantness, trawling threads, swearing and being abusive and general vileness that makes people stand out.

chibi · 28/08/2013 19:37

yours will probs be the easier to achieve, Nigel

swallowedAfly · 28/08/2013 19:39

and pointing a finger saying HA! you used to be 2stone overweight with glee probably didn't help.

that was... unpleasant shall we say.

also the utter complete idiotic naivety of saying just go veggie and eat lentils and tomatoes and pasta as a viable option for parents of small children.

plenty of childless people have empathy and intelligence and contribute thus. others just show themselves up to be those irritatingly ignorant numpties who know everything without ever having had to test their theories.

swallowedAfly · 28/08/2013 19:44

let's put this really simply. i don't drive and i don't own a car. if i was plastering my comments about how easy it was to drive and to cheaply and well maintain a car all over a thread about car ownership i'd be a bit of a twat.

if i was saying oh it's easy just put some lentils and tomatoes in the tank and it's dead cheap and works fine for me i'd be a super twat.

YouTheCat · 28/08/2013 19:46

I don't drive either.

I might knit a skateboard out of lentils though.

Empress77 · 28/08/2013 19:46

this thread is mad. Im sorry for causing so much offense by saying veggie food is cheap, for saying tomatoes are good, crikey. To me thats not naive thats normal. See how opinions work...they are subjective.

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 19:47

chibi bully for you. I had a decade of death and dying. I was exhausted by life.

I used to have to leave work, pick my dad up off the floor and go and finish my 12 hour day, 7 days a week.....no holidays. I mean not one day per year off work.

...... but what it has lead me to believe is that no one is coming to help you in this world. so my view is people have to helping themselves, because in my experience, that's what you can rely on.

it doesn't really work at all on MN because its not what anyone wants to hear. its very un MN but hey that's not the end of the world.

JO help is misplaced, but i think there is no significant chance of major help for people in the UK on low incomes. for me to pretend something better is going to happen is giving people false hope.

Empress77 · 28/08/2013 19:47

how is it twatty to say tomatoes and lentils work for some people, and what the chips is wrong with lentils anyway?

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 19:49

swallowed - you could have a view on building roads, road tax, you could have a favourite car.

anyway other posters with children have said they think children should eat the same food as adults,

and i eat.

i only told you to piss off once. really you are soft!

chibi · 28/08/2013 19:51

you know, some of us also have those same circumstances, faster.

i am not going to play hard luck baby olympics with you. i find that really distateful. you have no idea what the circumstance of people posting on this thread are, and what they are coping with.

i am really happy that your experience of being a carer made you tough and determined. That is not everyone's experience though.

shame it did not teach you empathy.

YouTheCat · 28/08/2013 19:52

Faster, that does not change the fact that you have behaved badly on this thread.

Everyone has crap in their lives. Severe autism with daily violent meltdowns anyone? Or how about both parents dying suddenly quite close together? Could throw in a dose of verbally, emotionally and physically abusive ex husband?

We all have things that are horrible that have happened to us but that doesn't give you some kind of right to ride roughshod over other people's feelings.

Empress77 · 28/08/2013 19:52

Shall we not all just make up now, this is all pretty harsh. everyone has different opinions on good food or whatever else is being fought over.
Instead Get drunk and eat cake and forget about it....

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 19:55

i dont doubt that youthecat - i said previously something like 'i live a good life but i know shit' and i am sure others don't live a good life.

however it is why i don't have children.
which posters keep mentioning.
so i am explaining why i dont

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 19:56

youthecat ....Jamie oliver is not talking about people with disabilities.

or is there a quote i am missing?

he is not talking about meals you can make in a microwave. so he is not addressing people living in bnb.

chibi · 28/08/2013 19:58

why doesn't he talk about middle class people eating M&S ready meals? those things are fat and salt bombs.

oh.

OhDearNigel · 28/08/2013 19:58

For me the lentil and carrot issue boils down to this. Lots of the "working poor" work in horrible jobs with long hours just to make ends meet (eg. Carers, checkout operators, road worerks, kitchen porters, waiters, call centre staff). After a day of soul destroying and often physically demanding work that may involve a split shift, the last thing most people want to come home to is a plate of pasta with carrots and onions. Hell, i have a naice, middle class job and i would be depressed at the thought of coming home to a plate of lentils.

When you are a headteacher you enjoy a reasonable salary and a reasonably sedentary job (compared to my Fil who worked in a sheet metal factory). Maybe carrots seem appealing if you choose to live on them. Maybe youve chosen to eat a tomato only diet For health or because you have chosen to spend your money on something else. Most people of my acquaitance (from very old money families to very poor) would be very depressed at the prospect of a lifetime of nothing better than 33p tomatoes to look forward to for absolutely no reward at the end of it.

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 19:59

chibi - he wants their advertising money. your M&S question

YouTheCat · 28/08/2013 20:01

So? We weren't talking about people's weight, but you managed to drag that into it.

chibi · 28/08/2013 20:01

but surely he is concerned about how they are eating themselves to death on pancetta wrapped whatevers

for all those poor ickle MC clogged arteries

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 20:02

chibi - i think the new series is aimed at the squeezed middle so probably a lot of overlap with the M&S eaters.

FasterStronger · 28/08/2013 20:03

you - yes like i said - if someone want to mock me for not having children, like i said, the gloves are off.

Owllady · 28/08/2013 20:04

I was born in 1977
we lived off freezer food
my mother was a cook, a trained chef, she ran kitchens, her and my dad both worked, my late sister was chronically ill
my gran looked after us often

really the only thing that has changed between the poor then and the poor now is that wages don't cover food and bills and relatives are often not close by to help it

that's all i can see has changed

Owllady · 28/08/2013 20:05

and chicken cordon bleu
chicken fucking cordon bleu

we had it often!

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