"they ate fast food and junk food but had splashed out of a plasma TV."

[ConfusedPixie]

This comment just came up on the radio news, supposedly said by Jamie Oliver about one of the families he was working with in his new TV show.

AIBU to wonder how the fuck what you eat relates to what TV you have?

Surely this just reinforces stereotypes of the people likely to have bad diets through lack of education on the matter? What a bullshit statement.

My cousin has been in the UK for the past two weeks and reading the papers. He is incredulous about what JO has said...his opinion is that if you are poor then of course you have a big TV etc as you cannot afford to go out. Funnily enough my cousin is a multi millionaire too....even HE can see what JO cannot.

my ds is solid and slim. healthy as you like. never stops bloody moving and must burn more calories in a day than i could eat in a week. if i gave him tomatoes and lentils he would die.

ubik yes, I believe the rabbit head story, I believe everything my mum tells me But, honestly, I think that one's true.

People were scared of food adulteration in the war and in the past and with good reason. Britain experienced food blockades and people did terrible things out of desperation at the siege of Stalingrad and in the rest of occupied Europe.

I said earlier that this came up on a thread about the horsemeat scandal when I mentioned laws against food adulteration in the 19th century.

People were saying it was your own fault if you ate cheap pies

I agree swallowed. That is my approach with DS too.

My DS would waste away on a diet of tomatoes and lentils.

He's just had some chips from the takeaway.

tbf though wafer thin sliced smoked horse brain is the most delicious thing! ate lots of it in belgium after quitting 5 years of vegetarianism with a bang.

Many of my patients are overweight because of the antipsychotic and other psychiatric medications they are on. Other disorders of metabolism such as Myxodema and Cushings can trigger weight gain.

Be careful before assuming that weight gain= unhealthy diet Faster. It often does not. Unless you have an internal scan of the fat around organs that many very slim people suffer from, external body shape is not the reliable indicator of good diet that you think it may be.

Plenty of slim people controlling their weight by some very unhealthy means too.

sirzy that's part of my point as to it being relevant as to whether you actually have kids and have fed a growing child when you talk about food and feeding children.

yes ds gets his fresh fruit and veg and good lean protein but he needs plenty of fat and fast carbs and stuff too because he is a energy burning machine! even if you could produce crazily cheap meals he would need food between those meals. i know everyone says, don't let children snack. but the reality of a child in a growth spurt is that some of them NEED to snack. ds eats way more than me.

JakeBullet, I actually pointed out earlier in the thread that the cheapest plasma TV at Brighthouse is £3.29 a week, plus £2.50 TV licence that works out at £5.79 a week. Less than a trip to softplay or swimming for a family with two children. Available when it's raining and the park is out of limits.

It's actually an incredibly good budgeting decision when you take into account the value provided, the fact it is for the whole family and lasts all week. If you spend one small amount on entertainment each week it is the most cost effective budget friendly way of doing it.

Rather than castigating people for doing it we should be congratulating their money saving savvy.

I love eating horse when I stayed w/ my Father in France. Low fat and delish.

massively high in protein. in belgium though they warn you not to eat too much because it is, 'too high for your brain' whatever that means.

mignonette i don't disagree with you. but generally overweight does relate to diet.

I lost over 2st. on a diet of roll ups, ready meals/processed shite and Costcutter/EuroShopper Red Bull when my daughter was diagnosed with cancer in 2011 and lived in hospital for the next 8 months.

I've never been thinner in my life. Or more unhealthy.

unbelievable thread.

having kids doesn't make you an expert, but it gives more insight into what it is like to try and plan around their needs (nutritional and otherwise) than some random extemporising to make a point on some forum.

it is incredibly shitty to trawl past posts to score imaginary internet points against swallowed a fly. You really don't cover yourself in glory doing that. here's hoping that future posters don't do the same - some are coming off as sort of gigantic actually twats

finally, i would like to precis what sgb says - she is right on point as always:

people with a shitload of options and resources at their disposal continue to have a shitload of options and resources at their disposal

I love my TV, it's flat screen but not plasma. I bought it three years ago hen I was still in work......it's already deemed "out of date" lol. Yes it is actually quite an economic form of entertainment.

oh yeah - those people with all the resources? they also shit on those who don't have any.

someone PM me when there is a thread telling middle class/fabulously well to do people what to do with their lives and money, for their own good

i look forward to telling them to fuck right off how to improve their diets

chibi

I have never hidden the fact I don't have children. I mentioned feeding 2 adults.

are childless people not allowed to post?
do we have some extra rules that don't apply the parents?
are there threads we can post on and others we cannot?

Yes Faster Generally it does but you probably 'know me' by now and i do get upset on behalf of those unfairly labelled. Neither will I subscribe to the 'fat bashing' as plenty of other activities/conditions cost the country far more i.e sports injuries....

how long do I have to be a parent for before my opinions count?
is one child enough?

no you don't have to be a parent to post

it probably might have enabled you to empathise a smidge more with those of us who are though (rather than bellowing repeatedly, it is easy, you lot just aren't trying)

hth

mignonette three of my closest friends are seriously overweight. unless they want to talk about it, it is none of my business.

but none of them think they know about healthy eating. they enjoy their food and don't feel the need to conform.

chibi - but there are posters with children who say the same. I am not the only person on this thread.

maybe it's just because you have been so unpleasant about it that you've stood out?

if there is anyone else saying that feeding children healthy nourishing homecooked meals is always possible under virtual every circumstance, no exception, then i think they are kind of unempathetic jerks too, and lacking in imagination, besides

well there is quite a large gap between what I have said (quotable) and what posters have claimed I have said.

i.e. i have a grocer at the end of my road, i have a house with a fridge, freezer, cooker and storage, i live within walking distance of 3 big supermarkets, and there is a market in my town with good quality cheap veg. i know how to cook, i work sociable hours and maybe most importantly i am not exhausted by my own life

i can, however, see how many people's lives have more than one of these things missing, and that plenty of those may have many of my list missing - the healthy diet you are talking about gets exponentially more difficult as your resources diminsh

the whole big screen tv thing is a smokescreen, and shows a total lack of understanding about how people come by these items, and pay for them