"they ate fast food and junk food but had splashed out of a plasma TV."

[ConfusedPixie]

This comment just came up on the radio news, supposedly said by Jamie Oliver about one of the families he was working with in his new TV show.

AIBU to wonder how the fuck what you eat relates to what TV you have?

Surely this just reinforces stereotypes of the people likely to have bad diets through lack of education on the matter? What a bullshit statement.

aris it would be cheaper to gas pensioners but Dave's against that.

Quite right about the division between child/adult food in this country Thyme. I think that actually is an important consideration.

I have been poor and not poor and I am working class
I can cook everything jamie oliver puts on his programs

I still buy frozen pizzen and fishfingers and some tinned stuff for emergencies
it's hardly a crime

well if you ask someone if they have children, then say this try having the children and feeding them for a few years before you think yourself an expert. you should probably consider the gloves are off.

Has somebody asked the question about paying his staff the minimum wage on the webchat thread?

Limited no the government favours a slow torturous death instead.

mignonette - i agree. when i was a child, we were expected to eat adult food.

This blog sums up very well why JO is being a sanctimonious arse.

Yes the minimum wage/zero hours contract question has been asked. I asked if he'd back up his claim of having poor ratio of British indigenous V immigrant workforce by supplying a staff breakdown plus copies of his rosters to show hours worked.

the thread dredged up was a diet thread i'm on to try and say HA! you used to be fatter than you are now so you must be a slovenly junk eating monster.

hardly a contradicting myself or needing to be dredged up thread.

i said that i wasn't fat - the poster in question dredged up a thread on which i said that i'd lost 2st - which i have after putting on a bit of weight through ill health and medication.

this was in response to the poster trying to make people who disagreed with JO give out their weight and height to prove we were fat pigs defending our rights to trough on lard.

As another poster said, one of the problems today is the division between children's food and adult food. Back in the day, children ate the same as adults. You don't need to have children to know how to cook good, cheap food.

I have never understood how people have the time or motivation to regularly cook different meals for children to the adults or what they hope to achieve by doing so (obviously extreme fussiness is different)

DS is 3 and has always eaten what I eat. It really annoys me how limited the menus for children are in so many places when they have fantastic things for adults which could be done in half portions for children. (I know restaurants are way off tangent for this thread)

I can't wait for the web chat.

well the gloves were off by then love.

and no i don't think you are a good person to comment on a healthy diet generally. you need to be a stable weight to do that. amongst other things

yes i was 'expected' to eat adult food too. unfortunately i had what would now be known as food phobias and it was fucking miserable. 6hr stand offs at a dinner table where my mother wouldn't let me get down till i put the filthy grey overcooked roast pork in my mouth and eat it and i sat knowing i'd rather sit there for the rest of my life and starve to death slowly than face what that felt like in my mouth.

another thing you may find out when you have kids is that you don't get to decide exactly what they'll be like. despite all your fantastic best laid plans you might get one who loathes lentils and tomatoes and is stubborn or disgusted enough to starve to death rather than eat them.

You can know what makes a healthy diet without actually eating those things you know! And to make changes to lose weight shows an understanding of the problems that being over weight and eating a bad diet can cause.

And of course we do need to remember that being a healthy weight doesn't always mean people eat a healthy diet, or have a healthy use of exercise.

you know you are the first person to ever tell me What Having Children Is Like.

because i don't see other people/hear what friends have to say etc.

but you know this.
don't you
and are just looking to reraise my childlessness.

That's different if someone (child or adult) genuinely doesn't like something then of course an alternative should be offered (or suitable meal for all cooked)

sirzy - absolutely. i have a friend who is in her 50's and has always been as thin as a thin thing but has found out she has outrageous cholesterol levels.

also you can be thin because you live on gin and amphetamines. or fat because you have fucked up knees and live on morphine and whatever doesn't require you to walk round a supermarket and stand up cooking for too long.

I'm eating a home made dhal tonight. I went out and had a kebab last night just to spite JO but ended up having one of those healthy chargrilled chicken breast ones with salad in a pitta. Tomorrow I am having home made vegetable chilli. I have also eaten steak and salad

And I am currently poor, unemployed and have a 34" flat screen TV. Stick that up your arse Oliver you slack jawed cunt!

I am a bit fat.

Maybe I should leave the thread

Aaaah, gin and amphetamines. Brings back such happy memories of my youth. Gin, amphetamines and Jamie Oliver was an unknown worrying the punters at his parents pub with his dribbing shouts of 'Awight', 'Pukka', 'Ged aaaaaht a my pub poor people'.

yes it should sirzy and i do that with ds. he has to 'try' things - as in put a mouthful in and eat it. if he genuinely doesn't like it then fine but he has to try.

i now eat a massive range of things and am absolutely fine not because i was forced to eat things that made me want to vomit from disgust and anxiety as a child but because later in life i gradually exposed myself to wider ranges of food and textures and flavours in a non threatening way.

i'm not saying children are like X or Y - i don't think i've said that anywhere - i have pointed out that they are not predictable raised in a test tube and exactly what you decided they'd be beings.

My mother in law is tall and slim (was skinny as a young woman) with horrendously high cholesterol which she takes medication for. She has always been very careful about what she eats and does not allow herself to indulge too much in anything she considers 'naughty' except occasionally and in tiny portions.

give it a decade or two sal and it will turn out gin and amphetamines are healthy and lentils cause cancer.

But my DS is thin as a rake.

So maybe I can stay.