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¨To send a copied and pasted Facebook Conversation to the superior at somebody's work

267 replies

QuintessentialOldDear · 26/08/2013 23:08

Most of what happens on Facebook just wash over me.
But today I got really really pissed off, and the latent feminist in me made a silent ROAR.

I am a member of a Selling/swap page on Facebook for my home town. A man posted asking if somebody knew a place on Facebook to post a job advert. (Vacant position) He attached a screenshot from his mobile detailing the job. He wrote in slang, outlining it was mostly lifting heavy boxes from delivery vans and putting them in storage, saying "this job is not for women".

A woman posted saying she did not think he could phrase it like that as it was discriminating against women. He replied saying in broad terms "you come and try out this job for a day babe and you will see it is not for women". She replied she worked in health care and did not need another job, she just wanted to point out that she did not think it could be phrased that way. A barrage of abuse from him, and various other men, mocking her being a woman, mocking her working in health care, and saying stuff like "of course, working in health care you have the time to make dumbass replies online" etc

I googled his name. Lo and behold he is general manager of the local branch. He has also taken part in a national reality show similar to Temptation Island, drives a Hot car with a Hot girlfriend in 6th form.

A woman posted saying she did 90kg in weights and would love a job with heavy lifting. He replied, he did not really want to meet a woman who could do that job, as he would not fancy a woman who could do such physical work without problems. He wondered if he should repost on lezbo.org.

His girlfriend posted laughing at all the women who felt affronted that they could not do the job.

He wondered if he should repost and hope that he would not get replies from "half brains" and idiots.

It was most absurd, most of the people posting were trying to help him see that it was against the law to post a job advert that was blatantly discriminating against a specific gender, and that not all men would be able to do that job. He was offensive to all of them.

As he is the gm of the local branch of a privately owned medium sized nationwide company, I am so tempted to email the entire conversation, with 30 comments mocking women and generally just being an arse to head office.

I dont know WHY the whole thing has angered me so much.

Should I just let it go thinking "Just another horrible arse" and be glad I dont actually know him at all.

OP posts:
SuperiorCat · 27/08/2013 11:51

Quint did say it was not River ford, but like them

Thaumatrope · 27/08/2013 11:53

Wah wah a long thread but have you actually sent it yet?

LemonBreeland · 27/08/2013 11:54

You definitely need to send it.

ChocsAwayInMyGob · 27/08/2013 11:59

When you send it, don't forget to say it's gone viral and is being discussed on Mumsnet which has 50 millions views a month.

That ought to do it.

OnIlkelyMoorBahtat · 27/08/2013 13:03

SEND IT OP!!!

wossgoinon · 27/08/2013 13:05

River Ridge?
River Swale
River Nene?

Oh send it!!! xxx

DreamingofSummer · 27/08/2013 13:08

Another vote for sent it

WandaDoff · 27/08/2013 13:11

Do it.

The stupid bastard deserves everything he gets IMO

Ifcatshadthumbs · 27/08/2013 13:18

I agree that you should send it but please make sure the company are aware that you are not the lady in the original facebook convo and ask that they point this out to the moron.

Ifcatshadthumbs · 27/08/2013 13:19

Ooh yes send them a link to this thread and threaten to name and shame if they don't take appropriate action!

Boosiehs · 27/08/2013 13:19

Totally send it. The company should know what their employees are saying on the Internet about their company.

MackerelOfFact · 27/08/2013 13:31

Like many others, I was going to post totell you to mind your own business and to keep personal Facebook posts separate from people's jobs - but this is totally different, and you should definitely at least point out to the company that this recruitment practice is highly illegal and that you hope it's not company policy.

SquirtedPerfumeUpNoseInBoots · 27/08/2013 13:36

oh yes send it.

spanky2 · 27/08/2013 13:49

What a charmer . Send it to his boss .

Fingerbobs · 27/08/2013 14:00

Another one wholeheartedly yelling 'send!' and marking my place for the update.

insancerre · 27/08/2013 14:01

have you sent it yet?

MistressDeeCee · 27/08/2013 14:03

He's a complete idiot. Don't know if I could send & be the means of him probably losing his livelihood though. There's stuff said on AIBU that I think can be near the mark at times but people get away with it because they're anonymous. Nobody's able to inform on what they've said if its felt to be inappropriate.

Its scary food for thought re.stuff you say on FB possibly being copied & pasted and sent to your employer.

This man should have kept his outmoded discriminatory views to himself.Unintelligent. & fancy going public like that. I'm assuming he was told clearly and succintly how wrong his views were so he already got a good dressing down and knows people's thoughts.

Still don't know if I could go to someone's boss tho. But can understand why some would want to.

PedantMarina · 27/08/2013 14:10

Oooh, I have a juicy little update: was talking with a colleague about this, and he pointed out that current Health & Safety law limits the amount that any employee is required to lift to - wait for it - 20 kgs. After that, mechanical assistance must be available.

This was all to do with the Royal Mail, apparently (why one can't post a package larger than 20 kg, apparently), but the standard goes across industry.

Yes, apparently a lot of industries have people happily lifting weights of all sorts, but they're doing it (from a legal perspective) totally voluntarily and to advertise that you must lift more than that is also illegal, quite apart from the blatant sexism.

MistressDeeCee · 27/08/2013 14:10

Also a bit concerened someone else may be blamed for sending it or OP may be identified in some way. & if his boss does nothing what's the next step?

AFishWithoutABicycle · 27/08/2013 14:17

Send it! If not for woman kind then for the poor man who gets the job and has to put up with this twunt.

MrsWolowitz · 27/08/2013 14:30

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NeoMaxiZoomDweebie · 27/08/2013 14:37

Quint?? Where are youuuuuuu? Coooeee?

Backinthebox · 27/08/2013 14:39

PedantMaria there are no weight limits set out by health and safety laws, only guidelines as to how to deal with jobs that require lifting regularly. I work in aviation, and the luggage limit in our company is 23kg, but you can take up to 32kg in a bag if you pay extra for it.

The man in the OP sounds like a dick, but I would be cautious about any c&p-ing. I would be surprised if he works for a national company if this is not already something his boss isn't already aware of.

PedantMarina · 27/08/2013 14:55

Intersting, that, Back. Thanks for the correction.

Another thing my friend mentioned (which might be a possibility) is that the guy might be an ex-employee who is deliberately trying to bring the company into disrepute. But to my mind, that would open up a whole 'nother world of legal trouble for him (libel, etc).

Quint - update, please!

allotmentgirl82 · 27/08/2013 15:05

send it to his boss and to the papers too'!