¨To send a copied and pasted Facebook Conversation to the superior at somebody's work

[QuintessentialOldDear]

Most of what happens on Facebook just wash over me.
But today I got really really pissed off, and the latent feminist in me made a silent ROAR.

I am a member of a Selling/swap page on Facebook for my home town. A man posted asking if somebody knew a place on Facebook to post a job advert. (Vacant position) He attached a screenshot from his mobile detailing the job. He wrote in slang, outlining it was mostly lifting heavy boxes from delivery vans and putting them in storage, saying "this job is not for women".

A woman posted saying she did not think he could phrase it like that as it was discriminating against women. He replied saying in broad terms "you come and try out this job for a day babe and you will see it is not for women". She replied she worked in health care and did not need another job, she just wanted to point out that she did not think it could be phrased that way. A barrage of abuse from him, and various other men, mocking her being a woman, mocking her working in health care, and saying stuff like "of course, working in health care you have the time to make dumbass replies online" etc

I googled his name. Lo and behold he is general manager of the local branch. He has also taken part in a national reality show similar to Temptation Island, drives a Hot car with a Hot girlfriend in 6th form.

A woman posted saying she did 90kg in weights and would love a job with heavy lifting. He replied, he did not really want to meet a woman who could do that job, as he would not fancy a woman who could do such physical work without problems. He wondered if he should repost on lezbo.org.

His girlfriend posted laughing at all the women who felt affronted that they could not do the job.

He wondered if he should repost and hope that he would not get replies from "half brains" and idiots.

It was most absurd, most of the people posting were trying to help him see that it was against the law to post a job advert that was blatantly discriminating against a specific gender, and that not all men would be able to do that job. He was offensive to all of them.

As he is the gm of the local branch of a privately owned medium sized nationwide company, I am so tempted to email the entire conversation, with 30 comments mocking women and generally just being an arse to head office.

I dont know WHY the whole thing has angered me so much.

Should I just let it go thinking "Just another horrible arse" and be glad I dont actually know him at all.

[QuintessentialOldDear]

He is advertising the job again on his Facebook page, this time the advert is much cleaner, and it does not specify gender. It looks a lot more professional.

I just dont get why he advertises on his personal FB page, it is wide open yes, but he does not have that many followers!

[mignonette]

If that is all that happens then maybe this does need to go viral Quint.

So tired of companies whitewashing disgraceful behaviour.

[Montybojangles]

Can we have a link so that we can all apply? Mwah ha ha.

[Noseynoonoo]

They won't tell you what they have done with him because that is confidential but they will say that it is of course not on blah blah blah to you.

[mignonette]

Could you make the FB page available via PM ? I quite fancy a change of career and promise I will not mention you.

[NicholasTeakozy]

It sounds like somebody high up has spoken to him and not bothered to let you know, which is a bit rude tbh. I hope they let you know what's happening.

[MollyBerry]

Did you get a response or not?

[QuintessentialOldDear]

I have had no response.

[LessMissAbs]

Advertising a job on a personal Facebook page (as opposed to the company's Facebook page) is a really odd thing to do. It sounds like he has permission from the company to do it.

I really would contact ACAS, they might have some better idea as to what to do as, along with the half of the population affected by this sort of thing, I find this really offensive. I wouldn't use the company if I knew which one it was, and I don't think this kind of old fashioned thinking is any good for the economy.

[blondieminx]

If no response tomorrow, explain you will be contacting the media with the screenshots.

Well done you for calling them out on this!

[AmandaCooper]

Discrimination in job advertisements is reportable to the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Not saying you should report the company, OP, it sounds like this wanker was off on a frolic of his own.

[mignonette]

Please take it further (or hand it to somebody who can) if they do not demonstrate real commitment to dealing w/ this.

I would hate to inadvertently give this company my money via my business if they are behaving in this manner.

[LessMissAbs]

AmandaCooper Discrimination in job advertisements is reportable to the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Not saying you should report the company, OP, it sounds like this wanker was off on a frolic of his own

Thanks for this. But the company are vicariously liable for the actions of their employee, unless they distance themselves from this (which they haven't - they haven't even responded to the OP's reasonable enquiry). By omission therefore, they are condoning it.

[Snuppeline]

I have just had my second child and in both my pregnancies I have been discriminated against and spoken to rudely by make colleague (not the same colleague and not the same employer). First time I was 25 and it was my boss talking badly of me for having a baby, ridiculing me and so on. I did not pursue this but chose to leave the job after mat leave. Second time around I'm 30 and caused all hell at work when senior male colleague berated me and all young women for having a child and taking mat leave to look after it. I am sick to the back teeth of implicit and explicit discrimination. Sadly, it's rare that so clear evidence of misogyny is seen but given that this is, please please, pursue it further.
Send to the press and the equalities body (mentioned above). For all our sakes!

[MrsWinklepicker]

Well now Catsize, funny you should say that but, much to my surprise, a male shop assistant in my local branch of a well known high street chain wears a badge saying 'trained bra fitter'... I can't imagine the ladies are queuing up for his services...

As you were.

[BaronessBomburst]

MrsWinklepicker I don't know - is he good-looking with warm hands?

[MrsWinklepicker]

If he was I'd be buying a lot of new bras!

I don't like to make generalisations but actually I think boobs probably aren't really his cup of tea iyswim :-)

[BaronessBomburst]

[AmandaCooper]

Lesmiss I meant why not give the company the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps it can distance itself; perhaps it has taken action in response to the OP's complaint. Who knows? It doesn't have to keep an external complainant in the loop.

[wokeupwithasmile]

Please give all to me if you are unsure. I would be SO happy to be the one who sends it.

[wokeupwithasmile]

uuups, did not realise there were three pages of this and sent it after the first....

[gaggiagirl]

Any update OP?x

[dirtyface]

I was all prepared to say don't do it when I read the title.

Then I read the post.

[dirtyface]

sorry posted too quick

meant to add, what a total wanker, i would send it to them if you havent already

[QuintessentialOldDear]

A wanker he may be, but I have just perused the local FB page for the company, and as the manager, the fb is all his doing. I like his marketing strategy, what he is doing on the company FB page. Lots of competitions, and people winning fruit baskets, lots of veg. fruit baskets delivered to nursing homes to "brighten the day" etc.
But not a word from the company no.