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To think Katie Hopkins has officially lost the plot and special needs children do have genuine medical disorders

366 replies

Arnie123 · 20/08/2013 15:08

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/katie-hopkins/why-must-everything-be-a-medical-condition_b_3751096.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

I know she is just a gobby professional troll but this time she has gone way too far. So special needs don't exist and it is just crap parenting? Unbelievable

OP posts:
Andro · 20/08/2013 17:14

ouryve - craniorectal inversion...my screen is now wearing my coffee!

mignonette · 20/08/2013 17:18

Might be an authentic wedding but she was also an authentic cheat who cannot hold a marriage together. Nor army training, nor employment, nor The Apprentice. Failure.

dinosaursarebisexual · 20/08/2013 17:22

Thrush will always be last to have her incontinence pants changed in the nursing home and her visitors page will be blank.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 20/08/2013 17:24

"I've heard little shitty brats in the park shove another child over in the park before and say 'I have ADHD so I can hit you and you can't hit me back' or the mother of an autistic child claim that because her son is autistic he doesn't need to share the toys and she doesn't need to discipline him"

That is so an example of believing the myth

mignonette · 20/08/2013 17:24

Dino Grin.

We all need to mess up her google profile by using that name from now on.

Cakebaker35 · 20/08/2013 17:25

I vote for no more threads about this idiot woman, she is just getting far too much air time.

YourHandInMyHand · 20/08/2013 17:33

Refuse to click on the KH link but this thread clearly illustrates why MN are doing the THIS IS MY CHILD campaign.

Some of the views on here are so ignorant! Angry

munchkinmaster · 20/08/2013 17:39

I have to say I'm a child psychologist and I have come across a good few kids with some kind of pseudo diagnosis which is really harmful. I have also met families such as the one described by thier nursery worker above where it is so hard to disentangle parenting from development. Some parents find it so hard to accept that thier child does not have a developmental diagnosis they spend years doctor shopping to the point that it becomes a child protection concern. So it may not be the majority but it does happen.

Oblomov · 20/08/2013 17:41

The posts by Samuel and youcanringmybell, make my heart weep.
My son behaves well at school. Not at home? So you think it was just my bad parenting? But it took me 2 years to get a diagnosis of Aspergers. Do you think they give them out willy nilly? Aspergers is classic for presenting differently at home and at school. Is a recognised fact.

Oblomov · 20/08/2013 17:41

The posts by Samuel and youcanringmybell, make my heart weep.
My son behaves well at school. Not at home? So you think it was just my bad parenting? But it took me 2 years to get a diagnosis of Aspergers. Do you think they give them out willy nilly? Aspergers is classic for presenting differently at home and at school. Is a recognised fact.

LRDPomogiMnyeSRabotoi · 20/08/2013 17:48

Well said, pag.

Sparklysilversequins · 20/08/2013 17:50

You're a child psychologist but you can't spell their? Heaven help us!

Youcanringmybell · 20/08/2013 17:51

I know nothing of your situation Oblomov so how could I make any judgement on you Thanks

However, this mother is renowned for trying to make something out of nothing. He is a lovely normal little boy. Her immediate presence brings about a change in the little boy that is directly linked to the way she treats him.
Of course this situation has no bearing on you, your child or your parenting.

JakeBullet · 20/08/2013 17:54

It may well happen munch but the vast majority of us have NOT "spent years doctor shopping". We saw ONE or maybe TWO doctors...often with the first referring to the second based upon school assessments, the development history and the on going issues.

That was MY history with paediatricians...I saw one who referred to another who gave the diagnosis based upon all the reports and assessments plus two hours in my DS's company assessing him with a specialist speech and language therapist.

I have no reason to doubt her diagnosis and in fact my son is now doing very well with the right support in place.

Women like KH need to keep their mouths shut and their eyes and ears open. She is ignorant and worse still is being given a platform to air that ignorance. I hate her and frankly...to coin a delicate phrase.....wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire. Hateful bloody woman.

Youcanringmybell · 20/08/2013 17:58

The vast majority of children that have a diagnosis are completely and thoroughly assessed and have parents that have done nothing but good for their children.
Katie Hopkins is out of order to make people think that it is more commonplace than it is. I agree and do not wish to belittle anyone that has has struggled to get their children the support they deserve.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 20/08/2013 17:59

munchkinmaster I could well believe that some parents do "doctor shop" in America but over here, it is famously difficult to get a diagnosis.

Sparklysilversequins · 20/08/2013 18:00

Just as we don't assume that the majority of bruises on children are caused by parental abuse nor should we assume that abuse by "doctor shopping" is the usual situation with children with SN.

munchkinmaster · 20/08/2013 18:10

I didn't say it was the majority, just that it does happen.

I may have a slightly biased view as these complex patients are more likely to see me and are more likely to demand my time and energy.

You'd also be amazed how much dr shopping is possible in the nhs and the way services can played against one another.

Your child abuse bruising analogy is a good one. Yes most bruises are just bruises but we need to be very aware that sometimes they are not as the consequences of not probing further in that instance are enormous.

insanityscratching · 20/08/2013 18:12

Funnily enough the only people I know who have been sent for a second opinion because our diagnostic team offer this and refer onto Elizabeth Newson, GOSH and Alder Hey have all received diagnoses.
Munchkin don't tell me you work for CAMHS don't you?

Crocky · 20/08/2013 18:13

I keep typing and deleting stuff because I am struggling to clearly express my feelings. But why would a diagnosis be devastating?

insanityscratching · 20/08/2013 18:20

Crocky a diagnosis is often devastating because it suddenly becomes reality that your child really does have difficulties. I knew ds had autism, the paed talked at his first appointment of confirming his thoughts (because he presented as classic autism) but the day that you get written confirmation that your child probably won't gain normal speech, won't live independently and the challenging behaviour is likely always to be a huge difficulty then that's the day the hope that you are imagining it, that it's not that bad goes out of the window and it's the start of your new reality.

munchkinmaster · 20/08/2013 18:22

Used to work in CAMHS but do something a bit more specialist now.

I'm not even really talking about second opinions as that's the system which works. It's people you say no to and then find they have told school a different story or are now onto getting the educational psychologist onside (as if we don't talk to one another).

I once discharged a child to find they had gone back to the gp seeking a new assessment for much the same thing the next week which was also sent to me.

soverylucky · 20/08/2013 18:27

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Sparklysilversequins · 20/08/2013 18:31

It wasn't for me tbh. I was delighted the day we received formal diagnosis. My devastation was experienced over the period of two years that it took to actually get the diagnosis. I used to stay up all night frantically googling for proof that ds was FINE! I don't think anyone can comprehend that feeling of utter fear when someone tells you that your child may be autistic. Biggest shock of my life. It's because no one really knows that much about it, complete ignorance, so it feels like the worst thing in the world, which of course it isn't at all.

Thing is you've got all that going on, then you're got everyone close to you in complete denial and hating YOU for forcing them to face that something is going on with their perfect darling grandchild/nephew etc.

Then you've got the general day to day assumptions that your child's "naughtiness" is caused by YOUR parenting. Of course your asking yourself if that's the case too.

In a way it's harder NOT to get the diagnosis because then everyone's suspicions that its just bad behaviour and you're a bad parent are confirmed and your poor child doesn't get any of the help and therapies they need.

Autism itself is often not the problem especially when it's high functioning. It's the ignorance and attacks from others who don't understand that cause the pain and devastation.

Sparklysilversequins · 20/08/2013 18:32

You're not your