Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

Generally where I go baby changing is separate to the disabled toilet so I don't use the disabled. If I am out alone with dd4 then I tend to not go far, supermarket would be the only toilets I think I've used ( no toilet in baby change room) its rare that there is anyone else in the toilets and I don't worry about leaving her in pram outside cubicle. If I'm out in the city centre I'm not on my own so we take turns for the toilet, I wouldn't leave her outside the cubicle in a very large toilet block.

One would guess Emily because those of us with disabled children are still able to use our faculties and apply reason and logic, ergo likelihood of kidnapping weighed up, dismissed.
I have no problem with shared facilities, but I do object to people putting my daughter into a difficult and painful situation, unnecessarily.

What have I done that puts your daughter in a difficult position?
Of course I wouldn't want to do that.
When I use the baby change facilities, if I need to I take a piss.
The baby change facilities are often in the same cubicle as he disabled loo.
I see extensive queues for public loos of the small cubicle variety.
I have never seen a queue for the disabled loo. Occasionally someone is outside as I come out. One person. (it's always been an adult with at least one baby in a puschair).

Would I leave a baby in their buggy outside a cubicle when in a motorway service station? Where there are 35 toilets and about 50 people in there, constant busy foot traffic etc - highly doubtful.

Would I leave a baby in their buggy outside the cubicle in my local Tesco, where there are two cubicles only and only one other person in there? Would and have.

There's no need for hysterics over it. You do what every sane and normal parent does with numerous situations on a day to day basis - make a risk assessment on that individual situation.

Anybody using a disabled lavatory without need puts my daughter in a difficult position, and every other disabled person entitled to use that facility.
I didn't say you in particular, Emily
As for nobody being there, it's probably because they've found it's being used and their fifty four year old, overweight mother is running for the next available loo.
Seriously, if it's a shared facility, fair enough, then we can expect that now and then it's going to be in use. We would prefer not to use that one, because when she needs to go, she needs to go, now, so we go to one that isn't shared, and some silly, selfish arse is in there incase baba gets nicked, or because there was a queue for the main lavatories. That puts my daughter in a difficult and painful position.

Yes, i just leave the cubicle door open. If i need a poo i just close it as my poos are quicker than wees.

I am not disabled so I don't use disabled loos

I did they whole end cubicle door open thing - no one was snatched by giant peedowls swooping down to carry them off or anything - all 3 of mine survived my negletful weeing

oh and, naturally, what Mrs DV said

Have done so many a time.

• would take my wallet into the cubicle with me though .

i'd leave the door open

I still don't understand why you think it's so "fucking selfish" to use the facilities in the way I have described.
Baby change is often in the same cubicle as accessible loo.
I change baby's nappy. I pee.
That's not "fucking selfish"
It's common fucking sense.

And the op started this thread so as not to derail the previous thread about using "disabled" facilities. The question was "would you leave your baby unattended?" I am perfectly justified in saying that i'd prefer not to without being accused of being hysterical or insane.
So what? I want to be in sight and reach of my baby so sometimes I'll leave the door open, sometimes I'll pee while I'm using the SHARED facilities.
I don't make derisive comments about other people's choices so it's a bit irritating to be in receipt of them. Or to have it inferred that anyone who uses a shared change/ disabled loo has disablist leanings.

Emily there are people all over this thread saying they'd "just" use the disabled loo. Not "if it's shared use", but "because I'll only be two minutes". rtft?

I have rift thanks.
I'm answering posts with my name on.

cheers Mrs DeVere
I'm being unfair dontcha know, sharing your sentiments?
As long as there is a big public campaign then people can say what they like against disabled people because.... Ooh look cute kids - warm fuzzies, aaaah.

That 16 year old in the wheelchair who has soiled herself can get lost, so they've got a CAMPAIGN.

The alternative is to leave the door open or use the shared facility when I change my baby.
Simple.

And no. I don't want to leave my baby outside a public lavatory and I don't give a shit whether anyone considers that precious, ureasonable or entitled.

It's fine to not want to leave your baby outside, you could hold your baby or pee with the door ajar.

It gets right on my nerves this sort of thing. People with disabilities campaign relentlessly for things like accessible public transport and toilets, often putting themselves through pain and embarrassment, and then just because someone has a pram they automatically assume they are a higher priority for the facilities.

If a person with disabilities cannot access these facilities they cannot go out. It isn't just inconvenient to them, it stops them functioning in society as they should be able to. These facilities aren't designed to make the life of people with a pram easier, they are designed to make the life of the person with the disability possible.

I would assume Emily, she could just go into a cubicle, unless she has mobility issues (other than a buggy) that make this impossible, in which case of course she can use the facilities for people with disabilities, as she has a disability.