Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

No, I'd leave the door open with the pushchair wedged in it/ bring the child in with me and sat in my lap. I've never used the disabled toilets - I'm not disabled so I don't need to. If the baby has needed changing we go to boots or somewhere else with a dedicated baby room.

Sorry to all those who say don't use the disabled loos - they are usually the ones with changing stations in them and are multipurpose.

Some are, some aren't. Most nowadays seem to be marked as the accessible loo and have signs for disabled use and baby changing. But if it's just a disabled loo then it's not entirely fair to use it.

KingRollo, I did that with DD the other day when I ran back into the house to find something - nice, quiet residential street. It probably only took me a minute but when I came back out there were a loads of builders from the house opposite watching the pushchair and I swear they all had cat's bum faces

Littlebear, IF a disabled toilet is formally marked as a nappy change room, then it is acceptable to use it FOR NAPPY CHANGING.

Many aren't, and it doesn't make them a family toilet - if you don't need to change a child's nappy, whether or not you have a child with you you shouldn't use that toilet.

It isn't a good solution anyway, and we should be campaigning for proper family toilets separate from disabled ones, and proper baby areas for changing and feeding (John Lewis is often excellent for this). But it remains ONLY acceptable to use them IF you are changing a nappy and IF that dual use is formally marked.

I can't remember ever having this problem in the dim and distant past when mine were in pushchairs, I've no idea what I did.

However, if you're worried about someone snatching your baby from their pushchair outside the toilet cubicle, wait until your sons start wanting to use the men's toilets on their own.

If I can't fit the pram in with me or there isn't one in the baby changing bit, I just ask someone (usually a group of old ladies or another mum) to mind the pram for me and I pee with speed.

Never thought of using the disabled loos before, don't they require a special key?

Never. Better safe than sorry, I do not close the door if there isn't a disabled toilet available.

I must be the worst mum in the world appatently. dd2 is 15months and was sound asleep in her buggy this morning. dd1 is 3 and was desperate for the loo. the multipurpose baby change/family loo/disabled loo was engaged (lady breastfeeding in there. while other thread!) so I quite happily left Dd2 asleep in the buggy and took dd1 into the ladies for a wee. we were gone maybe 5 minutes. probably less.
I couldn't take the buggy into the ladies loo as it has a series of fire doors at odd angles which make it impossible.

I made a risk assessment. deemed the risk to be infantessimle and so left her.

Permanently I'm scared of it. A 14 year old boy was raped in the male toilets not so long ago (don't remember where).

I did an absolutely appalling thing when ds was a baby. I wanted the loo and was holding him. A woman standing in the queue offered to hold him whilst I went in. She could have been anybody but she looked nice so I let her. Obviously he was fine, but I can't believe I did it.

To answer your question, I don't think it's unreasonable to leave a baby (esp one sleeping) outside the cubicle in a pushchair. I think that's fine.

candycoated
Of course a parent might have a disabi
It's. But an accessible loo is designed for someone who has difficulty using a regualr sized cubicle or who needs the adaptations of a disabled loo. I haven't seen a non able bodied person waiting to use the loo on my exit, from memory.
But so what if I had? Can a person with a disability never wait for a loo?
Ever?
I'm not running about pushing in front of frail old ladies or wheelchair users, or kicking the walking sticks out from ppl to get to the loo before them. I wait my turn and use the most appropriate facility.

If the loo has combined facilities I consider perfectly acceptable to use them.
Maybe you could apply for a toilet monitor's job.

And I don't think anyone is a bad parent for leaving their child outside a cubicle whilst they use the loo.
But I would prefer not to do it myself.

No I think teacherwith2kids has already applied for that role.

Nope, no way.

I use the disabled loo in my local shopping centre. I have twins and can't see any other way to do it.

Someone asked earlier if the people who object are disabled.

I object in the main ..unless the baby changing facilities are in there..obviously. .people are being disingenuous to say people are saying they cant use them then...and I am not disabled but my DD is.

She is nearly 7 but 9 year old size and in nappies. No way can we fit in a cubicle to change her nappy

She is not good at waiting. She will scream and lie on floor.

So we are glad if disabled toilet is empty

The salient point here is that if everyone with kids used them routinely there would be huge queues.

Nothing to do with "being PC" it's a matter of need

Why can't people see it's not a matter of "just them popping in for 2 mins with noone else around".

Nothing more to say on subject and no interest in a bun fight

Lavidaenrosa it was manchester I be.ieve.
Awful.

Bloody hell can't believe how many people wouldn't leave a child strapped into a buggy with the brakes on for the 60 seconds it takes to go to the loo.
I don't do it if there is a choice but have done so in the past and will continue to do so in emergencys.
She just makes big eyes at people.
I can hear her chatting and people cooing at her.
The chances of anything happening to her are slim to none.

Yes I have. More than once. I have them outside shops, outside cafes (when they were speeping, just out side the door and I could see them), in the double pram. Outside loos at the supermarket.

Emilythorne How bloody patronising are you?! I pointed out that you have no idea if someone has a disability or not and you made a snide remark. You're still making silly comments about being able to tell if someone is able bodied or not. There are plenty of reasons why someone may need a disabled toilet that doesn't mean they are in a wheelchair. Perhaps have a look at "this is my child" campaign?

I meant left them...

Loved your post emilythorne made me chuckle, especially the bit about kicking the walking sticks.

Yes.my child looks able bodiedish til she makes a noise

Whilst many of you lot are using the disabled lavatory, my extremely intelligent, very articulate 16 year old has wet herself. Imagine what that does for her self confidence and comfort next time you use a disabled lavatory.

When mine were small, I'd often piss with the door half open so could always see them. If you out the buggy in the doorway, it will block the view of your fanjo anyway! Most normal people would just look the other way seeing a buggy half in a bog.

would do, have done, have a radar key, too but not always on me.