Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

[SHarri13]

Yes, all the time. I have three children, we're out and about a lot. Not able to use disabled as I'm not disabled. I position the buggy outside the door, leave my 3.5 year old or 5 year old with their baby brother, I'm less than a foot away. I continue to talk to them. I really can't see the danger and I'm pretty cautious with my kids.

[chattychattyboomba]

This isn't a debate about accessible loos. Let's not derail it.

[Emilythornesbff]

Sorry chatty

[teenagetantrums]

yes and I would never use the disabled toilets because I had a baby, its just wrong, either leave your baby outside the toilet or put it on your lap , honestly there are not hungry hordes wafting to take your child.

[PicnicPie]

littlemisswise but when you're inside how do they know if you're using the cubicle for yourself or to change your baby?? People don't know. And people don't care. As long as one is being considerate of others.

I will continue to use a wheelchair/ pushchair accessible toilet when I am alone with my child and they are in a push chair. It is unacceptable t leave them outside or with a stranger I think the majority of the population would agree??

And how do you know that the picture doesn't indicate that it isn't push chair accessible? The one in kiddicare (where there is a separate baby changing area) has both pics. To me this means its pushchair and wheelchair accessible. I used it this morning. And I regularly use the one in John Lewis - again where there is a separate baby changing area.

I have had wheel chair users help me in and out of the cubicle. It all goes back to mp being considerate to others needs, IMHO.

[teacherwith2kids]

Lynnette, had to laugh at your comment.

I don't much like babies. Children, I love. I would have died to protect my own babies from a genuine risk. But the idea that anyone might think my babies gorgeous or adorable....no.....

[SHarri13]

I'm interested to hear people's reason for not leaving a pushchair 2 foot away from them?

Seriously the amount of 'no, never' has conetley gobs makes me!

[pumpkinsweetie]

I wouldn't, it's not a risk worth taking.
I either take my child out the pushchair and bring them in with me or use the nearest disabled/easy access toilet, obviously checking there is no one ineed of using it.

[teacherwith2kids]

"It is unacceptable t leave them outside or with a stranger I think the majority of the population would agree??"

IME, where I was living when I had children of this age, it was absolutely the norm to leave a pushchair outside the cubicle if one went to the toilet - either with the child in if too young to walk, or while the toddler came in with the parent.

Disabled toilet had RADAR key so not an option.

[fromparistoberlin]

i never did it, just go to end cubicle and leave door open

who the fuck invented that door/loo carrier thing, funny!

[Thurlow]

Far to sweeping to say it's "unacceptable" to leave the kids with a stranger. Parents are perfectly capable of making their own 'risk assessment'. Asking another parent to mind a pushchair for a few minutes is hardly unacceptable, I've done it myself, both asking and minding. Some places you physically couldn't get the pushchair into even if you tried, so even if you took the DC in with you you'd still be leaving a pushchair on the street.

[Emilythornesbff]

OMG

So on MN mentioning the names of two boys who abducted and murdered a toddler can be described as "hysterical" and on the same thread, using mixed facility lavatories can be described as abuse.

Of course it's extraordinarily rare for a baby to be snatched.
But is is quite reasonable (primal maternal preoccupation at play here) for a mother to not want her baby to be out of sight and reach.

[WetGrass]

It's called 'judgement'.

If there is a queue of women watching you park your pram and go into the cubicle - I find it quite implausible that someone would snatch your DC.

If it is a clingy toddler and someone who looks unpredictable loitering - I'd take them in.

[Jollyb]

Yes

[BadSpeakingSkills]

No never, always used disabled / family loo.

[stickingattwo]

yes- would and have when there's been no alternative.Left door ajar slightly. maybe i live in a nicer town than some of the other posters but not for one second do i think anyone would try to nick my baby while i was on the loo!

[Sallystyle]

Yeah, I have done it. With the door open a little.

It's about risk assessment and it is not a very big one.

I just don't worry a great deal about abduction as stranger abduction is so very rare. I can't live my life in constant fear of it. It wouldn't even cross my mind to not do this to be honest.

[candycoatedwaterdrops]

Emilythorne

"Never have I vacated the loo to find anyone (other than another parent of small child) waiting."

Do parents not have disabilities then?

And yes, I am bringing up the issue of disabled/accessible toilets because a.) this is a fred about a fred and b.) people have openly said they will use the disabled toilets.

[Lambsie]

When ds was little I used end cubicle. Now that he is in sn buggy I use the disabled toilet ( is getting too old to be sat around in ladies).

[LittleBearPad]

Disabled/baby change loo or I leave the door a jar on the cubicle and chat. DD hates hand dryers so I couldn't leave her completely. This is the other reason I prefer disabled/baby change loos as then I can use hand towels or wave hands frantically to dry them.

One of the local family loos here (Athens) has a small loo and nowhere for a changing mat despite being an enormous room. It's very frustrating as changing tables are rare anyway.

[LittleBearPad]

Sorry to all those who say don't use the disabled loos - they are usually the ones with changing stations in them and are multipurpose.

[hazeyjane]

No I wouldn't leave buggy with children in outside, because mine have all been very clingy screamers!

Instead I -

wodge buggy in door and leave it open
or
take children into cubicle with me

(isn't this a thread about a thread?)

[IneedAsockamnesty]

Its perfectly acceptable to use a disabled toilet if that toilet is formally doubled up as a baby change area.