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Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2013 13:17

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

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Dawndonnaagain · 22/08/2013 08:30

Funny, Emily, when my dd, as a young child used to find an able bodied person in the lavatory, or someone without a blue badge parked in 'her' space, she used to as why people didn't like her.
She feels that the underlying message on these threads is that those defending their right to use non shared facilities is get lost, my needs and those of my children are more important than yours despite the fact that it will cause you more discomfort.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/08/2013 08:31

That's right,

Course I am. What a shitty thing to say.

Plus..

A)it won't happen
B) people have told you ways to avoid it
C) it won't happen

And you are obviously very happy for our kids to scream and be distressed and piss themselves

FGS grow up

MrsDeVere · 22/08/2013 08:35

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curlew · 22/08/2013 08:35

"Well you are obviously happy for my child to be kidnapped and murdered.
I am not."

Fuck me, that's a foul thing to say!

Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 08:37

"it's not going to happen"

You have no idea. You really don't.

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 08:40

DawnDonnaagain I mean this as a genuine question and not an argument, but aren't disabled toilets meant for disabled people, not just those in wheelchairs? So someone may 'appear' able bodied but still have a genuine disability. Aren't they within their rights to use these facilities. GRANTED I'm not excusing behaviour of people who dont use the toilet responsibly and dont want this to be dragged into a 'but that's not what these people are doing' argument because thats not how I mean this.

curlew · 22/08/2013 08:43

""it's not going to happen"

You have no idea. You really don't."

I think I can safely say that a child left strapped in a buggy outside the cubicle door in a UK public lavatory while it's mother has a 60 second pee is not going to get kidnapped and murdered.

FourGates · 22/08/2013 08:43

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MrsDeVere · 22/08/2013 08:53

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LittleBearPad · 22/08/2013 08:53

If a parent uses a disabled loo that is designated solely as a disabled loo (not a baby change) when they need the loo then they are being unreasonable and should use normal loos and keep their cubicle door open.

If a parent uses a disabled loo that is also a baby change when they need the loo and do not change their child then they are being unreasonable and should use normal loos and keep their cubicle door open.

But if the facilities are shared and the baby needs changing then a quick wee at the same time is not a hanging offence.

Now calm down everyone.

Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 08:56

No mrsdevere this is not about my bag or my comfort.
But as it suits you to believe it is then I shall expect to receive sneering looks if I ever emerge from a shared facility with my DCs.

jacks365 · 22/08/2013 09:01

Emily would you use disabled facilities if your child didn't need changing and it was yourself who needed them?

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5madthings · 22/08/2013 09:02

Ofgs no one is saying they wouldtn care of a child got abducted we are saying its a just not going to happen but if you are not happy with that risk the come up with a solution to your problem that doesn't inconvenience others. Its that simple you can be as 'precious' as you bloody well want just dotn use the disabled toilets.

And actually I am ever amazed at people's inability to risk access, you will do so ,any things that are far more risky with your child, and not all of them are necessary at all so don't ciom

MrsDeVere · 22/08/2013 09:03

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5madthings · 22/08/2013 09:06

And not all of them are necessary so dont give me the 'it's a small but unnecessary risk' bullshit.

Tbh I think its utterly crp they put the baby change in the disabled toilets as it just means more and more people use them and see it as 'not a problem'. When my eldest wa little thee were very few baby cha he facilities, oddly enough it was fine, hence how I havent really used them with my younger ones I just change in a pushchair or on a bench or a wherever and just use my fold up mat. It didn't occur to me to use the disabled toilets for myself or my children...on account of none of us having a need to.

curlew · 22/08/2013 09:07

"No mrsdevere this is not about my bag or my comfort"

So what is it about, then?

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 09:09

How can anyone blithely guarantee that a child just absolutely wont get taken, How could you be SO SURE!? Just because we aren't aware of any precedence, we know that abductions DO HAPPEN. Just because they were in different circumstances, it doesn't mean there aren't a lot of fucked up people in the world that could take advantage of a situation. I KNOW the McCanns and the Bulgers for example were in very different circumstances, but at the same time they are victims of these fucked up individuals.

And this has NOTHING TO DO with the disabled toilet argument, which to me is a relevant but different issue. But simply in response to OP which said that leaving baby OUTSIDE cubicle (therefore to mean it means door closed)

Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 09:12

jacks no. I've already said that I either leave the door open or use a sling.
Sometimes dd is in a sling because ds likes to go on the bus and I don't like to take the buggy on the bus.
But with 2 kids in nappies it's rare for me to need the loo without their needing a change.

I might though. If literally the only alternative was to leave them unattended. I can't recall a time when that has been the case though.

5madthings · 22/08/2013 09:14

They are just as likely to be taken when you are there and have your back turned for thirty seconds, all those times in the park you can t we them for a minute...

And if you don't want to leave them out to eyesight, keel the door open or take them in the cubicle with you. the point is you DO ha either options, they may not be as convenient but you ha e them, unlike the person that really needs the disabled toilet.

You are putting your convenience above the needs of someone with disabilities, dress it up however you like biut it's entitled and rude.

Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 09:14

It's about not wanting to leave my children unattended curlew
That is all it is. I don't leave them unattended in public.

MrsDeVere · 22/08/2013 09:14

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curlew · 22/08/2013 09:16

I thought the whole point of this was that you were using the disabled people's loo so you wouldn't have to leave the door of your cubicle open?

And it was you said we didn't care if your child was kidnapped and killed. Which sort of suggests you think your child might be kidnapped and killed...........

curlew · 22/08/2013 09:19

"How can anyone blithely guarantee that a child just absolutely wont get taken, How could you be SO SURE"

Well, I can't be so sure my child isn't going to be abducted by aliens either. But I am not going to live my life in fear that he might be.....

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