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Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2013 13:17

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

OP posts:

ElleBelly · 21/08/2013 20:38

I feel that parenting has forced me to perfect the art of the 30 second hover piss!

Spikeytree · 21/08/2013 20:39

I know damn well he was proud of me, Ilovemyself. Just as I know damn well he wouldn't have given the time of day to someone with such selfish tendencies as you.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 21/08/2013 20:41

My GP surgery car park is shared with a local shopping centre. There are plenty of blue badge spaces right by the surgery. So many people park there without a blue badge to 'pop in' and end up getting held up in a queue. I have been there several times to find all the blue badge spaces filled and not a single bloody blue badge in sight! Fortunately, there is a little hut hidden around the corner where the parking attendants hang out. I take great pleasure in reporting the offending cunts cars.

olidusUrsus · 21/08/2013 20:41

Why has this entire thread turned into a disabled toilet thread when the mnetters that have admitted to using them have only done so infrequently and only when there is no other choice?

Because there are other choices when you are able bodied. If everyone made an infrequent trip to the disabled loo with their pram, disabled people would never get to have a piss in peace.

BlehPukeVomit · 21/08/2013 20:42

I consider myself a compassionate and 'aware' sort of person but before I joined Mumsnet I would, very occasionally, use a disabled loo. Obviously, I would check there was noone around who wanted to use it but I didn't think it mattered. [Shock] I am now a reformed character and would not dream of ever using a disabled loo.

I sometimes wonder just how many more 'naice' people there are who could also do with a bit of education about the rules of Disabled loos.

BellEndTent · 21/08/2013 20:43

I go before I leave the house.

I wouldn't do it. My children are so little they do not leave my sight when out anywhere. When desperate once or twice I have unstrapped the child, left the pram outside and taken him/her into the cubicle with me.

LittleBearPad · 21/08/2013 20:44

Are the actual rules of disabled loos that clear?

This thread would suggest otherwise - radar keys may be the best plan.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 21/08/2013 20:44

Those of you have nipped in only ONCE, have you considered that it's all of you doing "only ONCE" that's the problem.

Can you imagine soiling yourself at the age of 16 when shopping with your mates? You're soooo worried about your precious children that you forget the 16 year old who soiled herself is someone's (Dawndonna's!) precious child too! Seriously, step out of your selfish little lives and recall your teenage years.

KingRollo · 21/08/2013 20:44

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Ilovemyself · 21/08/2013 20:45

Olidus. I wouldn't use the disabled toilet of I only needed a fucking slash. I have already said that. But I guess that doesn't suit your argument.

I have never said your husband doesn't need the loo. I have never said that disabled people don't come first. I have never said that anything other than on a very rare occasion I may need to use it.

So fine. Talk to me like I am the bastard that waits around the corner to see if you are coming so I can jump in there just before you get there.

Emilythornesbff · 21/08/2013 20:47

Using a disabled parking space is very much NOT the same as using a loo because:
Many of the accessible loos I have seen are shared loo/change facilities.
I have no need for a disabled space currently.
I will be in a loo for a couple of minutes, even including "valid" baby change time. Less than one minute for my own use. A parking space is needed for a long enough time so as to deprive a deserving person of that space.

Now ppl can bitch and complain and call me selfish but I stand by my assertion That I've not hurt or inconvenienced anyone.
It's so rarely an issue. I often don't need the loo at all when I'm out.
If I do, normally I can find a way (even if it's a bit embarrassing or uncomfortable- I don't care) of using a regular loo.
If there is no SAFE alternative I will use whatever loo I need to as I will not leave my small DCs unattended even for a minute.
I can handle being called precious and selfish even though I don't agree that that's the case. I absolutely couldn't handle my child being taken. There is nothing in my power I wouldn't do to stop that happening. If the only way o prevent it was to eat every single MNer, you'd all be done for.

pumpkinsweetie · 21/08/2013 20:48

The solution would be, to not have changing tables in the disabled loos, then there could be a complete ban on the non-disabled using them.
But how would people determine who is disabled and who is not- how would it work?

Would incontinence be seen as a disability?

KingRollo · 21/08/2013 20:51

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jacks365 · 21/08/2013 20:51

Imagine a shopping centre with say 50 mums in it with prams who all go every 3 hours to the 1 disabled toilet. 3 mins a time ( don't give me the 30 sec line you all wash hands and dry too) thats 150 minutes out of 180 so what are the chances of a disabled person being affected. The shopping centre I was in yesterday has a separate room for baby change with no toilet in it and no lock on the door as its for use by multiple babies at a time.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 21/08/2013 20:51

We're giving you examples of when people like you have hurt and inconvenienced people but you keep telling yourself that you're not if it makes you feel better. FWIW, I can and will wait for a disabled toilet but I know some people cannot. Even though it causes me pain, I accept I am not in the most need.

Ilovemyself · 21/08/2013 20:53

Go kid yourself spikeytree.

You know fuck all about me. Because I have used a disabled toilet a few times in my life doesn't make me the fucking devil.

I have done a lot for charity. A lot for various causes I feel passionately about. And I still so so. So I know what I am. And it's far from selfish.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 21/08/2013 20:55

Histrionic nonsense to talk of 'children being taken'

littlemisswise · 21/08/2013 20:57

You've admitted to using disabled car parking spaces, on this thread, too Ilove, so in my book that makes you pretty bloody selfish!

It doesn't matter how many times people explain how using a disabled toilet inconveniences people with a genuine need, those that do it, who see no harm in it, are not listening!

Spikeytree · 21/08/2013 20:57

Kid myself about what Ilovemyself? That by using facilities that are not for you you are being selfish? Okay then.

Btw, the 'I do a lot for charity so I can't be selfish' idea is a bit like 'I can't be racist because my best mate is black' isn't it?

olidusUrsus · 21/08/2013 20:58

Tbf, Ilovemyself you know fuck all about spikey's dad and whether he would be proud of her or not...

I hear that for every £10 you raise for charity, it gives you 10 seconds on the clock in a disabled loo. Best to stack 'em up and then just go for one really long piss, I find.

Yy to that, Rollo

Thepowerof3 · 21/08/2013 21:00

If I'm desperate I dump the buggy and sit the baby on my lap while I do a pee, he'll probably be traumatised!

Ilovemyself · 21/08/2013 21:02

Yeah yeah yeah spiked tree. Call me selfish all you like. I guess you think I plan to take a shit every time I go shopping by myself just so I can wind people up be using the disabled toilet.

You are saying things based on once in a blue noon if I really have no other choice. To be selfish is to do it without care for others. Quite clearly i do not or I would use the disabled toilet every time I need the loo. But again that doesn't fit your needs does it.

candycoatedwaterdrops · 21/08/2013 21:03

Ilovemyself Every person may have only done it a few times but it adds up.

Ilovemyself · 21/08/2013 21:04

Olidus. I have every sympathy for what your partner has to go through. And as I said, I do not use the disabled loo unless I really have to. But you just happily think what you want.

acer12 · 21/08/2013 21:06

Yes fanjo because in the history of man kind no child has ever been taken
Must have been that nasty media faking those little boys and girls disappearance ....

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