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To be irritated with school mum

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toomanyfionas · 18/08/2013 11:54

Had a call from a mother of a boy in same class as ds. She says that "a third party whose name I won't disclose" informed her that my son had kicked her son at school.
She was quite het up and talked at length about how "obviously as john's (not his real name) mother I do not want hom to be kicked at school..." And that this was a courtesy call to let me know she is making a complaint to the school.

The boys are 5.

I said okay, I see uh huh mmm hmmm but stopped short of actual conversation saying I didn't get involved in children's school squabbles.

Tbh I was a bit taken aback to be phoned by a parent I didn't know in a flap about an incident of which I knew nothing.

I felt like saying, "you don't ring other kids parents to complain, that's not how it works. You talk to the school." But I didn't.

Afterwards I spoke to my son who said there was a game in which you had to run after each other and try to kick them. There were 5 of them. He seemed unaware a. that it was not a great game and b. that it hadn't ended well and mystified about john's complaint.

Of course we talked about kicking having no place in games or anything else really.

Do I need to do anything else?

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Elsiequadrille · 18/08/2013 12:44

Obviously we didn't see it in the OP, Pinksippy, that information was provided a little further on in the thread.

I wouldn't be happy, in that case, with your neighbour handing out my telephone number to somebody I didn't know.

Elsiequadrille · 18/08/2013 12:45

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saintlyjimjams · 18/08/2013 12:47

What's the OP meant to do pictish? She has a nutter parent on the phone (and I would automatically assume that a parent making this sort of phone call had a tendency towards hysterics & a blinkered attitude towards her own child) complaining about a situation she knows nothing about. She clearly does care as she asked her son about it.

She can now deal with it in a sensible way and talk to the teacher about it.

FWIW if I felt compelled to approach a parent about a situation I hadn't seen and hadn't been told about (although I can't imagine doing it) I would ring them and ask them if they knew what had happened, and maybe ask them to ask their child, not tell them.

Thinking back someone did that once - rang me to ask me to ask my child's version of events (not involving him, he was an observer) as she wanted to talk to the school but wanted a clearer idea of what had happened before she did.

toomanyfionas · 18/08/2013 12:47

Yes to anyone who missed it, she approached my neighbour for my number. The mysterious third party had suggeted this line of enquiry.

waddle it is you who needs to try to keep up. I have already explained this happened in school. As I was not also at the kicking game, I did not deal with it, no. That does not mean I do not absolve responsibility for my son's behaviour. It just means that the facts as such are unknown.

cushtie i think it's called projection.

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PinkSippyCup · 18/08/2013 12:47

Well that is my point. People need to read the OP's responses.

Elsiequadrille · 18/08/2013 12:48

We missed it, Pinksippy, good point Hmm

PinkSippyCup · 18/08/2013 12:49

Ok dear. Glad you're now up to speed Smile

Elsiequadrille · 18/08/2013 12:50

I'm not sure it was appropriate for her to phone you, especially as she doesn't know you at all. Her first port of call ought to have been the school.

pictish · 18/08/2013 12:50

What's the OP meant to do pictish?

"Oh I see...well thanks for letting me know. I will have a word with ds and try to get to the bottom of what happened, and let the school deal with it as they will"

Not "I don't get involved in school squabbles"

It's pretty simple.

saintlyjimjams · 18/08/2013 12:51

TBH if I ever receive this sort of phone call (my friend had one recently for a secondary aged child, she spoke to her son & his story was somewhat different from the other boys - & he was very upset by his friend's interpretation) my response will be 'I'll talk to my child and take it from there and will talk to the school if I feel it's necessary'. I certainly wouldn't be apologising without knowing what had gone on. In my friend's case the other boy had been somewhat economical with the truth when talking to his mother. My friend thought about ringing her back to tell her the other version (backed up by another boy) but didn't bother, as the other mother seemed more interested in blame than actually what went on. She spoke to her son about his role and left it at that.

saintlyjimjams · 18/08/2013 12:53

Hm yes, although I think on the whole people are often taken aback by the inappropriate approach (and it is inappropriate) & become a bit tongue tied. My friend said she did & was actually left feeling she'd let her son down when she found out the alternative story.

Elsiequadrille · 18/08/2013 12:54

Somebody clarified before you needlessly piped up, Pinksippy Wink

soapboxqueen · 18/08/2013 12:55

It is over the top to call parents at home over something so trivial. Believe me boys playing games where they decide to go hit or kick each other are a playground constant. No clue why, they just do.The correct thing for this other mother to do was to go to the school and allow them to handle it. Then the school could have made a decision as to whether the incident was serious enough to inform their parents or whether it was just daftness and could be dealt with, within school.

The OP dealt with it correctly and discussed it with her son. I'm not sure how I would respond to such a call but it would be something along the lines of "ok, I'll mention it to the teacher in the morning" They're is no way to deal with it other than to make the assumption that everything this caller 's informant said was true and it may not be, or may not be the full story.

cushtie335 · 18/08/2013 12:56

Good post soapboxqueen.

FranSanDisco · 18/08/2013 13:01

The sad thing is in these situation the parents who 'react without facts' can end up avoiding and labelling the 'other boys'. All the while all the boys will be happily playing together at school but never having these friends over to play.

toomanyfionas · 18/08/2013 13:01

One of the kids involved - according to my son under oath - was neighbour's son. Neighbour knew nothing of kicking game, nor why the mother wanted my number, but our boys do play together, attend same parties so I think ok she gave it out.

I told the neighbour about it and she commented that phonecall mother seems overly protective of her son.

treas hear hear. Let them get on with it, work out their solutions, take the school's guidance at school and parents out of school.

saintlyjimjams thanks, I think I will do that.

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mrsjay · 18/08/2013 13:06

5 year olds will always play games like this whether it is poking kicking or other sillyness, I think you handed it well Id have said well I do think you could have asked school about it , but aprt from that you did the right thing this mum is going to be like this all through school you do know that I think you need to have a word with her or go to school,

toomanyfionas · 18/08/2013 13:08

HeySoulSister I did wonder who the 3rd party was. My son says it was a lunchtime game which limits it to parent help (the mother did say it was another mother). To me this is stirring. If you see it happening, you talk to the children at the time. If it is serious and at school, you let a teacher know.

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mrsjay · 18/08/2013 13:11

I agree I think the other mother was stirring and gossiping I hope it works out though the boys will still be friends but watch out for this other mum as people do tend to over react

ImNotABarbieGirl · 18/08/2013 13:12

I think you handled it correctly OP. Neither you or the ther boys mother where there so how can either of you possibly handle the situation fairly without bias?

I think that isolated incidents that happens at school, should be sorted out by the school. Obviously if its happening over and over than that's when parents need to be brought in.

OP Yanbu

foreverondiet · 18/08/2013 13:12

"I would say, well its not your child, so its not your problem or your business. I will ask the teachers about it."

I would go to the teacher and complain that another parent has approached your concerning an incident you don't know about.

toomanyfionas · 18/08/2013 13:14

OK well it's bedtime where I am. I shall report back if there is any update.

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JenaiMorris · 18/08/2013 13:17

I can't imagine complaining to the school about my son being kicked in a silly game. I'd mention it maybe, particularly of course if he was particularly upset or had been very hurt but complain? No. Maybe I'm splitting hairs.

And what PinkSippyCup - if the other mother had simply given me a heads up that the children had been playing silly buggers then fine. But to phone seemingly with the intention of having a go, in possession of few of the facts, is OTT. This stuff is for school to handle, with parental involvement if they judge it to be necessary. Parents sticking their beaks in causes all manner of strife.

Oh and what soap said, too.

MayTheOddsBeEverInYourFavour · 18/08/2013 13:21

The other mother sounds ridiculous

I think you handled it really well op

JenaiMorris · 18/08/2013 13:22

x-posts with other reasonable posters Grin

SanFran - I've seen that too. Unless the overly precious mother is a queen bee in which case perfectly pleasant children get ostracised by her gang for imagined slights. Neither situation is at all nice.

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