To be sick of the current public slating off teachers!

[Belle15]

Just feel teachers are criticised from all angles at the moment and we work damn hard for very little financial gain or thanks!! Would like to see any of the people moaning about us actuallu spend a day in our shoes.Needed a rant!

Anne - there are rubbish teachers at my school and it makes me angry. We are a small staff and a few poor teachers brings us down badly. Unfortunately when poor teachers are off sick, the HT has very little power to do anything about it. In the meantime, those of us left behind have to cover their lessons and pick up the pieces with the students. That tends not to happen in the majority of other jobs.

I deserve all this time off because I am not paid for it.

That makes me pretty deserving of it, in my book.

Sorry if that offends you. Again - perhaps you could just retrain?

I hate going to the dentist, but if I meet a dentist in the pub I don't immediately assume he's a right bastard & knee him in the nuts

As a teacher I don't think we work harder than anyone else, just we get slagged off more than anyone else, because everyone went to school so they think they know what being a teacher entails. Nurses possibly being a close call to also being given a tough ride.

Not,so someone doesnt turn in for an nhs shift they are short,the remaining staff pick up work

Yes in other professions if you're crap you're out pronto.

Yes the whole country could retrain as teachers that would work.

Not,so someone doesnt turn in for an nhs shift they are short,the remaining staff pick up work

What do you think happens in education?

Keep up,I'm responding to the teacher who thinks they're only professions left short if someone off

Oh and in other sectors they cut staff and other workers take the slack.

raises hand I would like to nominate lawyers for being slagged off a lot too. I don't think I have ever met a stranger and told them what I do without them either insinuating I am stinking rich at the expense of poor people or had a go at me about rape conviction rates/planning permission laws/etc etc

In fairness I think when someone goes off sick in other professions those left behind pick up the pieces. I can only refer to nursing but when I worked on the wards if someone was off sick you just got on with it and in extreme situations worked a double shift to cover. As a practice nurse if a colleague goes off sick you run a double clinic or 3 clinics between 2 of you, the patients keep on coming.

But if a nurse had been signed off for a month, cover would be found and there wouldn't be a flurry of complaints from parents about the lack of continuity. I'm not playing who-has-it-hardest but if you are the parent of a DC at my school, in Yr 11, say, who has had a string of Science teachers this year, or a Yr 9 who has had 4 different Heads of Year because of long-term sickness, you'd justifiably be quite pissed off.

I'm not sure, MrButtercat my friends in the private sector seem to moan a fair bit about incompetent and useless colleagues! It's hard to sack a crap teacher but in my experience most people jump before they are pushed - it's a miserable job if it's not for you.

Oh, OK, I take the point. Yes, hard for staff who have to cover.

You see you'd think so but time and time again cover is not found.

As a professions teachers are habitually on mn bemoaning their lot,their t&c
You know what it's hard going on numerous others who don't habitually bemoan their lot
No shift work,no weekend work,no public holiday working it's not the worst public sector job

Who has the wine and nibbles?

I went to a crap teacher's leaving do last week, actually.

Lovely woman. Good teacher in her day - lost it rather in recent years. Resigned once capability process kicked in.

I feel awfully sorry for her (she's a mate) but she wasn't able to get it together, she was hoofed out. Just as happens in other professions.

wherearemysocks I have found s year that those who are about to be sacked tend to go off sick. I have had colleagues off for almost all of this year. It has been increasingly frustrating. We're a small secondary and at one point this year 1/4 of teaching staff were off (for weeks, not just days) The HT can do nothing in that situation. AFAIK, only 2 have resigned, so the situation will perpetuate next year.

Of course there are shit teachers, and I don't think people disagree with the concept of performance related pay, but how this is implemented in teaching is the issue. The choices are basically on exam results (which is shit if exam boards change goal posts willy nilly, or if you share a class with a shit teacher for example), on lesson observations (where again the goal posts change regularly, and grades are entirely subjective based on the observer in many cases, and really someone watching two lessons agreed in advance out if the hundreds taught each week isn't exactly good sampling). If I knew that my pay would be decided fairly based on my work I'd be very happy with that.

Me too.

Yes, agreed.

I'm so slow at typing my posts are looking a bit random. I'll
Just have some if that instead I think. Make a change from drinking at inappropriate times...

By all means Pretend to offer a buffet,shake your booty,even talk like a 15yo about bashers
Just it doesn't really add anything
But hey,as you are