To be sick of the current public slating off teachers!

[Belle15]

Just feel teachers are criticised from all angles at the moment and we work damn hard for very little financial gain or thanks!! Would like to see any of the people moaning about us actuallu spend a day in our shoes.Needed a rant!

Why do people dislike uninteresting, ill-informed shit-stirrers? I know it's not just me.

What BoneyBack said.

I love teaching. Would prefer not to have spent the last three years getting slagged off for doing it, mind you.

Why do people dislike teachers? I know its not just me.

Who knows why someone would take it upon themselves to dislike an entire profession? Can't think of many reasons, tbh, so not very helpful, I know. Extreme stupidity? Massive prejudice? Enormous fuckwittery?

Am running out of reasons, but none of them are good, tbh.

Here here, bunchoffives. I agree with literally every single thing you wrote, including the bits about the bad teachers. Trust me, as someone who is (forgive my lack of modesty) a pretty good teacher, it's infuriating seeing those who aren't very good continuing year after year to be ineffective and poorly managed.

Its really easy to understand. The teachers I have met are not very good now don't tell me that was too difficult.

Any plumber I have met so far was a wanker - I don't automatically think that it's a prerequisite for the entire industry because I am not a fucking idiot.

Well, they evidently didn't succeed in teaching you the basics of balanced discussion and sensible debate.

OK, I'll bite.

Is this the ones that taught you, or the ones that teach your dc?

What was/is so crap about them?

raven apparently they are sarcastic, think they're special and drink coffee at inappropriate moments.

sonly have you met every teacher in the country?

No?

Do you think that might be why people think you're spouting shit?

It's a teensy bit prejudiced, isn't it?

Oh well - guilty as charged then. I'd best spend the next 5 weeks weaning myself off coffee & sarcasm.

& then I'll have to take up crack or something to get me through September.

Well done sooty you get it , cos we all have a load of respect for sarcasm don't we as that is all I've had tonight do you all take a course in sarcasm is it part of your course. We all know how children thrive when you humiliate them.

Agreed, amaxapax . I also believe that the teaching unions should do much more to get parents on side by emphasising the detrimental effect Gove's policies will have on their children. I don't think they win any sympathy when talking solely about teachers' terms and conditions.

Incidentally, the woman behind the counter in the post office was a bit sullen with me this morning. I think everyone who works for Royal Mail is a miserable git and should be sacked forthwith.

But you aren't a child, & I don't see why you'd feel humiliated.

Yes, sonly - we learn sarcasm, inappropriate coffee drinking skills and bus chucking. Essential.

Oh, sonly, I so wish you were just a shit-stirrer. Unfortunately, I have met parents like you, who think all teachers are simply vindictive control freaks. I'm sorry for whatever experience you've had that has put you off teachers as a whole, but there are a lot of good teachers out there who genuinely do want the best for your children. I've scheduled my holiday specifically so I can be back for results day because I know how hard my Y11s worked and I want to be there to celebrate their success with them and offer support where necessary. Do you really think those are the actions of a terrible person?

I was already sarcastic - picked it up as a teen ( just realised - DF as a teacher - must have got it from him) Obviously that's one of the reasons I was accepted for my PGCE.

I'm also pretty intelligent, and have the ability to understand when sarcasm is appropriate and when it is not. Humiliating students is not in my repertoire. Chucking kids under buses, mind you...

I think that if the op left out the financial bit, she has valid points.

I have not met every teacher have I, but I can judge the teachers I have met.

I don 't think teachers get criticised more than other professions. I'm a civil servant and we get loads of bad press.
What I find hard with teachers that I know is their reluctance to admit that there are some crap teachers. I'm more than willing to admit there are crap civil servants as I have met them. Why do some teachers find this so hard? Admitting there are crisp people in your profession doesn't reflect on you- I don't think so anyway.

You're not in penury as a teacher,favourable t&c,no shift work,no public holidays
All thing considered its not the worst job in public sector
Nor are you the only workers who are maligned.

Yes you can, but that's not what you've been doing on this thread.

I am glad you have realised that you can only judge the teachers you have met.

I think teachers get slagged off a lot because they have two or three times the amount of holiday of almost every other profession and they seem to moan more about how hard they work. it's a double whammy. I didn't have a single day's annual leave in 7 months recently, work between 10 and 12 hour days (lawyer) and I am not a) expecting 6 weeks off, then 6 weeks on, then 1 week off, etc, and b) CERTAINLY not behaving as if I deserve all this time off because of how hard I have worked. No amount of work in term time to me can justify the holidays. I wish teachers would just say 'yes I work hard in term time but I get great holidays' rather than 'oh thank god it's the summer I can't wait for time off I have worked sooo hard' as it makes people who work EQUALLY hard all year a bit .

Also, I started on £25k as a trainee solicitor and needed 2.1 from redbrick or oxbridge. I think teaching is pretty well remunerated - although you need a degree it does not need to be AAAA AAA 2.1/1st etc.