To be sick of the current public slating off teachers!

[Belle15]

Just feel teachers are criticised from all angles at the moment and we work damn hard for very little financial gain or thanks!! Would like to see any of the people moaning about us actuallu spend a day in our shoes.Needed a rant!

But if the grass is greener

Indeed, englishroses.

Maybe you could retrain?

but if I meet a dentist in the pub I don't immediately assume he's a right bastard & knee him in the nuts.

Brilliant

I hate going to the dentist, but if I meet a dentist in the pub I don't immediately assume he's a right bastard & knee him in the nuts

I had a right bastard of a driving examiner (more than once), but I don't think the whole lot of them are like the awful ones I met.

Defensive much?

Whilst I agree that people often are happy to voice opinions about what teachers do, whilst knowing little about the reality - and some hate you - try being a lawyer!
As far as I can tell, everyone has an opinion, virtually none are positive and FWIW, the govt hate us all too...
Not saying that there aren't upsides to the job at all, but just that public esteem definitely is not one of them!

I like teaching and am under no illusions that there are many perks to it. I just dislike being accused of being lazy and incompetent when I am neither.

Ooh, no, sonly, I'm having a lovely evening

I nearly became a teacher but decided it wasn't for me. I am very happy with my job, I work very hard for little thanks and I also do lots if work in my own time. It's the nature of my job and I am just fine with that. I did my research first and knew what I was letting myself in for!

Interestingly I seem to have quite a few teacher friends. The ones who have had different career paths and then retrained as teachers feel they have things pretty good.

That's how it works, sonly, yes.

You attack. The people you're attacking defend themselves.

On the whole, in this instance, politely & with good humour.

Have a crisp...

But if the grass is greener, then re train and do something better

I did. I still think teachers have an undeservedly bad press. I also agree that they are sometimes misguided in terms of their perceptions of others.

Defensive much?

Takes one to know one...

Englishroses

"But if the grass is greener, then re train and do something better."

Why should I? I love my job, strangely it is those that don't do it and know very little about it that seem to hate those of us in it.

X-Benedict that's because I know quite a lot of teachers but not many nurses. And only one nurse quite well. And come to think of it she is a bit of a moaner.

Interestingly I seem to have quite a few teacher friends. The ones who have had different career paths and then retrained as teachers feel they have things pretty good

Who on here has said any different? I love my job. I just get arsey when posters tell me what a workshy bastard I must be, because someone drank their coffee at an inopportune moment one a fricking lifetime ago. And the subsequent posters who for Christ knows what reason pile in.

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Teachers do need to make sure they stand together in their unions to protect their pay and conditions.

I'm NOT a teacher, but I want my children to be taught by highly educated, capable professionals, and it is surely in all parents' interests to support attracting such people to teaching. We all should stand with teachers to make sure that profession is an attractive one to join.

I don't think teachers are especially criticised any more than any other one (think of bankers, solicitors, civil servants etc). I do think that when I have personally come across teachers who are obviously not good at their jobs, the head and governors responsible for that poor teacher's continuing employment have been very weak and reluctant to take the necessary action to dismiss them. That inaction reflects badly on the profession as a whole.

I love my job. The kids make me smile on a daily basis, I'm currently enjoying a lovely holiday and the money is fine.

I'm bloody good at what I do.

I resent being told by people who know fuck all about me that my job is easy and/or that I am lazy.

I make the job look easy but that's different.

Why do people dislike teachers? I know its not just me.

I find this whole conversation so strange. Of course teachers are going to try to protect their pay and conditions. It would be absolutely foolish of us not to. I can't say much about the pensions issue because I don't really understand it. However, I can say with some certainly that if teachers are expected to have contact with pupils until five o'clock each evening, if preparation time is taken away and if they're expected to undertake administrative duties, the quality of classroom teaching will go down. It's common sense: all of those activities take away from the time I currently allocate to planning and marking. If you're a parent, that's where your concern should be.

I like my job. I adore so many of my pupils. The teaching bit is absolutely the best bit! But I can't do that well if all the other bits encroach on the teaching bit. I want to be a good teacher, so obviously I'm going to try to prevent the destruction of my primary role, which is educator.

And the other side of the coin is that there are now large numbers of teachers being forced out for being too old and too expensive. Both sides of the picture are valid, IMO.

Thank goodness for that Vivienne - she is not letting the side down