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Jeremy Forrest verdict - aibu to be confused?

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noddyboulder · 20/06/2013 14:54

Yep, I don't think even his own parents could deny he's a massive, hideous scumbag with no impulse control - but how can he have been found guilty of abduction when the girl he had an affair with said it was her idea to go to France and she went willingly?

Can somebody legal shed some light?

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SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 20/06/2013 19:08

He knew not to do this. No way he could have been confused about this- he would have had to lie, cheat, lie a bit more and seriously scheme to get this relationship off the ground. It would have taken a lot of planning and a lot of thought before he even got as far as shagging her. That in itself shows grooming and plotting that's pretty evil in my opinion.

That poor girl will suffer the repercussions of this for the rest of her life. She will never have a sexual or romantic relationship that isn't coloured by this. Thats a life sentence so whatever he gets wont be as long as hers. It makes my blood boil that anyone would think she was partly responsible. He's a vile, disgusting predator who not only went against every ethical code of his profession but cheated on his wife at the same time. Absolute scumbag. Actually no- he blackens the good name of scumbags everywhere- he's fucking filth and I never say that about people.

Rant over.

Innacorner · 20/06/2013 19:11

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lljkk · 20/06/2013 20:10

I don't accept he's a sexual predator. A numpty, yes, fine. Loathe him for being an idiot. But predatory, no.

Several mid-teenage brides in my family tree.

RikeBider · 20/06/2013 20:20

What makes you think he's an idiot? He's an intelligent, educated 30 year old in a position of responsibility, he has a wife, a job, a home.

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firesidechat · 20/06/2013 20:24

I don't accept he's a sexual predator. A numpty, yes, fine. Loathe him for being an idiot. But predatory, no.

Several mid-teenage brides in my family tree.

Really? Despite everything else posted on this thread you still don't think he acted appallingly and deserves to go to prison? Amazing!

Several teen brides in my family tree too, but none of them were the brides teacher and quite right too.

SomeDizzyWhore1804 · 20/06/2013 20:27

What is he if he's not a sexual predator? He's groomed and abused an underage girl. That's the dictionary definition of a sexual predator.

Ffs stop defending this manipulative sack of shit, people. It's not about her age or the age gap, it's about him being in a position of trust and him totally abusing that. He had a duty of care and he disregarded that entirely. No way on earth you can defend that. Kids are vulnerable and shouldn't be being abused by the very people who are meant to be protecting them.

CrapBag · 20/06/2013 20:28

I was sexually abused at 15 and whilst I was not consenting, I didn't exactly scream and shout at him to leave me alone, I was too scared. So did I consent to that? No I bloody well didn't.

Its sad though that there are people that would argue it wasn't abuse and would be confused by that.

Teacher should have known better. He is a fucking idiot. And he mouthed "I love you" to her when he was lead away or whenever it was. He has learned nothing has he.

RikeBider · 20/06/2013 20:29

Idiot suggests he just did something stupid or impulsive or somehow didn't realise it was wrong. Which isn't the case. He had a prolonged sexual relationship with a vulnerable child half his age who he was in a position of trust and authority over. That isn't idiotic, like "oops, I reversed the car into a lamp post silly me". He researched possible jail sentences, he took her abroad to somewhere with different consent laws. Not an idiot at all.

Bobyan · 20/06/2013 20:35

A numpty?!? WTAF.

He started a "relationship" with a 14 year old child, which became sexual (if you can believe a word of it) when she turned 15.

He's a pervert. And I wouldn't want him teaching my daughter.

Hulababy · 20/06/2013 20:36

He IS a sexual predator. How can you think so???

He was her teacher, in a position of trust.
She was then a 14y old child.
He groomed her.
He had sex with her.
He took away from her parents, without their knowledge or consent.

He is a risk to female teenage girls.
He is a sexual predator. No two ways about it.

flippinada · 20/06/2013 20:36

He's a bit more than an idiot. He's a predator and an abuser. He deliberately targeted a young, vulnerable girl and groomed her. And I wouldn't be surprised if he had tried similar before.

It's not unknown for people like this to deliberately work their way into a position of trust where they can get access to their favoured targets.

AnyFucker · 20/06/2013 20:36

I wonder if the apologists on this thread caught the footage of him coming out of court this evening...smirking and making eye contact with the cameras

the bloke is a predator, an abuser and an attention seeker

expect much more from him

AnyFucker · 20/06/2013 20:37

x-posted with ada

we often agree, as it 'appens

davidjrmum · 20/06/2013 20:50

My 14 yr old dd (soon to be 15) went off to her end of middle school prom this evening with her friends. They spent ages getting ready, giggling and enjoying themselves and looked absolutely lovely - looking so grown up but not grown up really - just young girls being young girls. The thought that a teacher might think it appropriate to try to start a relationship with any one of them at such a vulnerable time in their lives horrifies me. I hope he goes to prison for a long time.

CrapBag · 20/06/2013 20:50

Oh FFS, so I called him an idiot. Fine, I'll say he's a fucking cunting sexual predator then. Is that better. Yes the fact I said idiot is the thing to focus on in my post. Angry

RikeBider · 20/06/2013 20:55

I think people are replying to lljkk not you Crapbag.

flippinada · 20/06/2013 21:04

Cheers AF

I didn't see that but it doesn't surprise me.

It says a lot about him, I think, that he wouldn't take the stand but was quite happy for her (and of course his friends and family) to do so in his defence. And the creepy "I love you" is no doubt to ensure she is kept in check.

I just hope the poor girl gets the support and help she needs.

FeegleFion · 20/06/2013 21:06

Oh my FUCKING eyes!

lljkk - I always thought you were a reasonable poster.

I tell you what, those poor, raped teen brides!

Dis-gus-ting!

CrapBag · 20/06/2013 21:07

Whoops, sorry. Blush

Thought it was mine as a few of them came directly after my post.

Alisvolatpropiis · 20/06/2013 21:07

crapbag

It's not you people are criticising for saying "idiot"

flippinada · 20/06/2013 21:08

In fact, the more I think about that exchange - "I love you, I'm sorry" - the more chilling I find it.

DeeDee1977 · 20/06/2013 21:09

AF I saw the smirk - arsehole!

thebody · 20/06/2013 21:12

Errrr, my dmil and fil married at 17 and she was pregnant.

Get they! They were both teenagers not 15 and 30 ffs.

I find it scary and creepy when people apologise for paedophiles and rapists. Just don't get it. You either know what's right and decent or you don't. No fuzzy line.