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Jeremy Forrest verdict - aibu to be confused?

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noddyboulder · 20/06/2013 14:54

Yep, I don't think even his own parents could deny he's a massive, hideous scumbag with no impulse control - but how can he have been found guilty of abduction when the girl he had an affair with said it was her idea to go to France and she went willingly?

Can somebody legal shed some light?

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Maryz · 21/06/2013 18:17

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HeadFairy · 21/06/2013 18:18

Step, I feel your pain, both the Serena Williams story and this one have driven me insane with rage. I just want everyone to stop talking about it so I can calm down!

I'm not sure how many more times I can reiterate it's not romantic, it's not a love affair, he did abuse her, he was grooming her without actually resorting to violence!

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:20

Yes I'm going to complain to the BBC be user they call it a love affair.

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:20

Because !!! Not be user

flippinada · 21/06/2013 18:21

Btw Catlike re your comments in jail - I think he might well have a hard time, even if he does have some sort of perceived status. I may well be wrong but I think high profile offenders are often targeted by other prisoners.

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:22

flipp it sounds like he got her to perjure herself. Wow, he just gets better

Binkyridesagain · 21/06/2013 18:24

If I heard correctly, the news report earlier said there was to be an investigation into a possible 3rd party involvement whilst he was in custody. It is suspected that he used this 3rd party to coach her for when she gave evidence.

flippinada · 21/06/2013 18:24

No it shouldn't Maryz. And if he did genuinely care for her, he wouldn't have put her through it.

Mind he if he really did care for her he wouldn't have done any of this. What a pathetic, horrible little man he is.

flippinada · 21/06/2013 18:25

By the way step I hear you, loud and clear!

Stepissue · 21/06/2013 18:26

HeadFairy - people have started avoiding me because I will not shut up about the utter unfairness of it all. Even close friends who I would say are educated and reasonable are all 'Hmm' at me.

Surely I'm not saying anything that contentious? I don't care what the victim did, no-one forced you to insert your penis!!! It's rape!! Stop raping people!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh again.

There are knock on consequences too, to these attitudes being seen as 'normal. Something happened to me when I was young, I didn't tell because I'd been somewhere I wasn't supposed to be (pub), doing something I wasn't supposed to be (drinking) and I went off with him willingly. I think I was wearing a very short skirt too Hmm. Oh and I fancied him too, loads. Just the minor matter of not wanting to have sex and lose my virginity to him that got in the way, ah never mind, that was soon overcome Hmm

HeadFairy · 21/06/2013 18:27

sauceforthegander When did they call it a love affair? I watched it and didn't see that.

Berts · 21/06/2013 18:28

What the judge said in summing up seems exactly right, very clear headed and spot on.

So whatever my opinion, or anyone else's on here, this is the view of a legal professional, experienced in child protection, who has heard all the evidence.

Maybe we should end it there - I think the judge has said all that needed to be said.

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:30

1 o'clock news and then again on news24 at 2pm.

Something like "I'm standing outside the blah school where the love affair began"

Berts · 21/06/2013 18:32

Well, except to say stepissue Flowers

Dawndonna · 21/06/2013 18:32

Of course she was in a position to make a free choice.
When? How? In what context? At school, in his house, bed, car? In France?
At no point was a vulnerable girl, and let's face it, she was a girl, in a position to make a free choice.
As for Buxom, I was bloody buxom at eleven. Didn't make me an attractive young woman, it made me an early developer, with the mind, emotions and sensibilities of a child.

HeadFairy · 21/06/2013 18:34

sauce I've pm'd you.

AnyFucker · 21/06/2013 18:39

Step Thanks

I don't make myself popular sometimes either

I don't give a shit, tbh

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:40

Thanks headfairy

SauceForTheGander · 21/06/2013 18:44

I think my friends think I'm a bit nuts. I am regularly sending no more page 3 petitions etc for them to sign. My Facebook page is full of blogs and articles about every day examples of sexism and not accepting the state of things. No one ever re shares or likes .... My friends are fun and bright and clever but just not interested.

Stepissue · 21/06/2013 18:45

AF Grin It just feels so weird, like you're fighting for something obvious - don't beat up kittens and drop them in scalding water! But everyone is kind of... well, there are 2 sides here, and she was 14 you know, probably looked older...

Anyway, thank you all for the Thanks its hitting me now more I think because I have 2 daughters, I really worry for them.

SauvignonBlanche · 21/06/2013 18:45

I heard it Sauce, I nearly choked.
I'd phone the BBC myself if I didn't have a family crisis going on.

Stepissue · 21/06/2013 18:46

Sauce - Exactly the same here.

Dominodonkey · 21/06/2013 18:48

I think the sentence is probably correct - for me the main thing is not that she was 15 but that he was in a position of trust.

However, as others have said, it does highlight the ridiculous nature of some other sentences. It was not so long ago that I was looking at a case on here where a teenager had burned an autistic 'friend' to death after torturing and humiliating him at a party and he received less time than Forrest.

AnyFucker · 21/06/2013 18:49

You will be having an impact, step

Sometimes people take while to grow the Fuck up, sometimes their life circumstances change and they get that lightbulb moment

Bobyan · 21/06/2013 18:51

For once a judge seems to have grasped the reality of a situation...

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