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To feel a little sorry for the 7 children benefits Mum.

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MilgramsLittleHelper · 12/06/2013 11:19

www.itv.com/daybreak/hottopics/benefits-mum/

Is just seems like another bit of benefit bashing to me.

I know she shouldn't have had children she couldn't afford, but what hope of improving her lot???

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AmberLeaf · 12/06/2013 20:16

Why is it always the cleaning jobs that are mentioned on these threads? has anyone specified cleaning toilets yet?

beatback · 12/06/2013 20:16

I feel sorry for the kids and the parents,of anyone in this situation. The country has let these people down, poor education no life chances bad decisions poor parenting leads down a spiral of decline in which there is no way out. I would imagine the mother has very little chance of any employment other than miniumin wage jobs, i can see this from both sides of the argument. The country has got to 1 bring benefit costs down 2make it more beneficial to work "SOME HOW". I also believe that very few people have a lifes "AMBITION" to be on benefits and even people like her have been failed by the country because the country has not given her the tools to succeed in life. we have to find a way to help the 7 kids to have productive lifes and escape the life they are now in. I also know that there has to be a point where the country has to say "NO MORE" it can not be right or Economic for people not working to have more money than some one who has studied for years, who has to pay a mortgage and run a car to get to work. This comes from someone who is "RIGHT OF CENTRE" NOT RACIST OR A BIGOT". The point being i feel sorry that people are in these positions and that in reality there is no escape.

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:16

I couldn't care less that they are not perfect feegle-if they would take responsibility for their lives I would be perfectly happy.

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:17

So shall we all have 7+ kids the usual just cos?

morethanpotatoprints · 12/06/2013 20:18

Ash

Are you sure you are not confusing people not affording to have more dc, with people not affording childcare.
The two are totally different. i never did get that can't afford any more dc.
I mean this irrespective of benefit as well. There have been large families throughout history, way before benefit.

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 20:18

Why yeas, Ashoe - merry baby making Grin

BeerTricksPotter · 12/06/2013 20:19

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Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:20

I would love to be baby making feegle but dh says no-tis a money thing.

GettingStrong · 12/06/2013 20:20

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Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:21

I have a big telly but ta anyway beer-I would love a bigger house but seeing as nooone is offering to pay for it we shall to have to stick to the 2 bed shoe box we live in for now.

Dawndonna · 12/06/2013 20:21

two children with disabilities

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 20:21

Ah, now I see why all the jealousy...sorry Ashoe Sad

HollyBerryBush · 12/06/2013 20:22

Lifestyles like the one in the Op are drains on society. there is no intention of ever working and being a functioning member.

And again I will state my belief the welfare state is a security blanket not a lifestyle choice

What bit of that does no one understand?

If you have 10 children and could afford to them, I have no problem with supporting you if you get widowed or made redundant whilst you get back on your feet

I have a massive issue with people like the subject of this article who (quote) "haven't worked for 20 years since they were 18".

Hey, your contraception might fail once, even twice, you might like to seek wider professional help to stop it being habit forming and expecting the tax payer to bring up your kids. You can bet your bottom dollar, if benefits ceased at 2 children, families would be curtailed to just that (multiple births excepted)

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:24

I am not jealous of this woman whatsoever feegle-I can see that her life cannot be easy. That does not mean that I think we can continue to fund benefits as a lifestyle choice.

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Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:26

dawn-again perhaps read the whole thread? I have repeatedly said on here that I believe a decent society should look after the vulnerable which obviously includes the disabled. You are entirely missing the point that people have no problem with that-their issue is with people who see benefits as a lifestyle choice. Why do you deliberately fail to see the distinction?

Bonquers · 12/06/2013 20:26

I would never spit on Ashoe beer. I am far too posh. I would pay a poor person to do it for me. Grin

usualsuspect · 12/06/2013 20:27

Give up work and have a baby, Ashoe.

Its the life of Riley apparently.

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:27

Hmm beers.

JakeBullet · 12/06/2013 20:28

She has two children who have disabilities, one with"behavioural issues" which could mean anything from ASD to ADHD or both (DS has both) and one with arthritis.

Not exactly the same thing as a lifestyle choice then. Had her own place until her marriage broke down and she could not keep up the mortgage repayments. No mention of her exH or how much (or little) he is co tributing. Meanwhile she is caring for the children and being vilified in the press, great "lifestyle choice" innit?

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:29

For some people it really is the life of riley usual but you just deliberately choose not to see that.

ItsallFeegle · 12/06/2013 20:29

GettingStrong - thank you so much for sharing your experience. You are another woman who is an inspiration.

I must stress, I mentioned this scenario only as a possibility, to try to highlight that situations like these aren't always very rarely cut and dried.

Well done for finding such amazing strength. Flowers

And to let everyone know, I chose my career after experiencing an extremely abusive relationship in my late teens/ early 20's when I was beat, raped and was forced to not take contraception.

I was lucky that I was 'allowed' to work, as that was where I kept my pill.

usualsuspect · 12/06/2013 20:30

If I had a quid for every time someone said 'lifestyle choice' on this thread I reckon I could pay the benefits bill.

Ashoething · 12/06/2013 20:31

I am not vilifying her jake-I have repeatedly said her kids are entitled to all the help they can get. Apparently the father of the first 6 kids doesn't contribute-shame on him,the tosser-but quite frankly I doubt they earned enough in the first place to afford 6 kids.

As for her choice to have yet another child with a man who also appears to be a feckless father-well no I don't think she should be rewarded for that.

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