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To wonder wtf the government expects single parents to do?

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RocksThatIGot · 06/06/2013 11:29

I have just been given a place on an access course, as I want to study to become a social worker. I am a single mum to two dc, and I have had a nightmare few years having been in an emotionally abusive relationship, and subsequently had to go to court several times (13 and counting) to face my abusive ex. So I have been earning money where I can but the court thing has taken over my life for the last 18 months or so and because of legal aid taking any money I do earn in contributions, it just hasn't made any sense to earn money, especially with the stress of what has been going on.

I am aware of the changes coming to benefits with the universal credit, which it seems are going to adversely affect the lone parents who are self employed, like me! So I have applied to college as I have inspired by the social workers dealing with my court case, and I want to be able to give my dc a better life. I know it will be a long slog with 4 years of study, but I am determined to do it.

So I just got a place at college, and went to see about getting financial help with childcare and travel costs (the nearest college doing the course I need is 40 miles away). And it turns out that, guess what, the government has scrapped all that financial help, as of this year! I have been told that i can apply to the college for a bursary but this is not going to be very much and unlikely to even cover half of my travel costs. So I have no idea how I am going to survive the year of this course. I'm just so angry that the government are doing everything they can to make it impossible for people to be on benefits, but at the same time they are making it impossible for single parents to study and get into employment! Am I missing something here?

OP posts:
PurpleThing · 09/06/2013 01:36

The reason single parents get help beyond other low income / disadvantaged students is to help their children. Living in poverty is the thing that hurts children more than anything else.

CarpeVinum · 09/06/2013 10:46

Living in poverty is the thing that hurts children more than anything else

However technology has made massive changes to how education can be delivered. Throwing money on childcare shrinks the already tightly squeezed pot. Which means less access for fewer people if funds are diverted away from the actual delivery point.

There exists a huge network of free and highly subsidised forms of access to education which allows people in a massive range of difficult contexts to access learning, certification and create the solid foundation required to go on to higher levels of study. And people don't seem to know about it. I'd rather some of the withheld childcare funds were spent raising awareness of the fuller range of possibilities beyond what happens to be on offer in the institute up the road. We don't have to have our educational opportunities defined by geography and "set classtime" constraints in the way it used to be.

Helping children in poverty is a numbers game. Not everybody will complete their studies successfully. Not everybody will translate education into OK paid employment. And as of yet we don't have crystal balls that allow us to accurately predict who will translate investment into a net gain, and who will end up not following through despite a significant investment. If numbers are restricted because money has to be diverted from delivery and directly involved resources (textbooks in electronic or paper form) then fewer children will potentially benefit from being lifted out of poverty. Finite resources means finite places. I vote for more places given that we do have delivery modes that permit alternative routes around roadblocks to access.

Multiply the total cost of childcare per child by X number of children for Y number single parents returning to education and it will not be a negligible amount when compared to how many additional subsidised (fees etc.) places could be provided for the same investment.

And you cannot ignore that one of the greatest gifts a parent can give their child is to show them a successful model of facing challenges, seeking self created solutions, doggedly chipping away or around roadblocks and refusing to be defeated at first refusal. Particularly when it comes to modelling attitudes towards education. Education alone cannot provide all the answers. The "personal outlook" attitudes it encourages to bloom and develop are a fundamental part of the package that leads to successful completion and a translation into real world application of skills and knowledge gained.

Roadblocks are only going to get bigger for future generations. They will face a Tsunami like challenge from opportunity-hungry nations where technology will offer educational access that has never been possible before. Those people will not be sitting back and complaining they aren't getting funded childcare. I've watched what happens in the MOOC environment as a participant. The "never been spoon fed anything ever" truly opportunity-hungry make short work of the challenges that some of us flop about in the face of ... and leave us in the dust. That is the competition of the future, for work, investment and opportunities of every kind.

In the face of that kind of drive and well honed, problem solving skills, what hope for those of us who were taught that it is somebody else's job to smooth each and every roadblock that stands between them and their goals ?

It is not a question of not helping, refusing second chances and saying "well you should have thought about that before". That doesn't make sense given that genies don't go back in bottles. But how we frame easing people into accessing education and training will influence attitudes towards opportunities, attitudes which are going to have to move forward and be able to compete in a very different age compared to what we have been used to.

Lets face it. It's not just education that will continue to morph and take advantage of the freedom from geographical constraints that technology offers. Many sectors of employment are going to continue to look at developing ways in which they too can free themselves of the small pond of talent in one locality and instead allow themselves to pick and choose from the massive ocean of talent scattered all over the globe.

Yesterday's solutions are not the best foot forward in preparing people for the challenges and opportunities of today's and tomorrow's world. They just aren't.

TheRealFellatio · 09/06/2013 11:30

Carpe is speaking so much sense I am slightly in awe of her. Grin

HeadsDownThumbsUp · 09/06/2013 12:46

I think it's worth mentioning that single parents on low incomes are some of the worst placed to benefit from changes in technology which have enabled distance learning.

People in low incomes are much less likely to have the home access to a computer that most of us take for granted when we talk about the ease of distance learning. Internet connectivity is an issue too - do you know what proportion of UK households have broadband? It's a lot lower than you'd think. We all take this for granted because, well, here we are having a conversation about distance learning online, probably on our home or office broadband connection.

And distance learning can only do so much. It works in some contexts, for some subjects, and for some people. But there are lots of qualifications and degree level subjects where distance learning doesn't work, and bricks and mortar is best. Single parents, and other people in low incomes need access to those too.

janey68 · 09/06/2013 12:56

Carpe- you write the most intelligent, balanced posts I've seen on MN in a long long while. Respect.

TheRealFellatio · 09/06/2013 13:44

I want to know who Carpe is in real life because I am thinking of voting for her. Grin

CarpeVinum · 09/06/2013 21:35

Britain has one of the highest penetrations of internet/tech access in Europe, if not the highest.

Tech access wasn't an issue in terms of the OP, otherwise she probably wouldn't have been posting here, but yes, not attempting to narrow the tech divide is akin to accepting learners without pens, paper and books twenty years ago as a cost cutting exercise and then acting all surprised when their learning got hampered. All the more reason NOT to throw money at childcare for a specific group , when the funds could be diverted to creating more places on courses and, where needed, providing subsidised hardware and internet access to an entire family, so both children and parents could benefit from being on the right side of the tech divide when it comes to education access and enrichment.

Within online education there has to be sensitivity to the overuse of resources that place a heavy demand on the user's set up in terms of speedy internet and decent specs. However non optimal speed of internet and creaky motherboards aren't ignored issues in course design and by and large the high quality low/no cost courses tend to have that issue as a core consideration during the build ......far more than it used to be when it did get seriously bells and whistles with less focus on substance for a while.

It's not that I don't agree with you that real challenges and obstacles exist in terms of access. They do, and help is needed to help people overcome them. People can't build themselves a ladder out of a poverty pit with just thin air and spit as the raw materials. However a lack of childcare costs being covered doesn't have to be one of the obstacles in a context such as the one we are discussing.

Awe, while good for my ego Grin is misplaced, I have to admit an advantage in the debate that is unfortunately not down to me having "special magic sense making" powers (I wish). I come from a background of being a former "extended time frame" teenage fuck up who got second chances... and the ever growing toolbag to stimulate, increase success rates and widen access to educational opportunities is my obsession hobby.

CarpeVinum · 10/06/2013 14:29

Digital Divde Issue

For those on eligible benefits* ? A refurbished PC for £24 or a refurbished laptop for £74, plus broadband and any line rental costs. For those not on eligible benefits ? A refurbished PC for £74 or a refurbished laptop for £104, plus broadband and any line rental costs.

www.go-on.co.uk/news-and-views/latest-news/get-online-home-offer-24-pc-broadband-299/

I will readily admit I will be stealing their facts and figures to help me bang a similar drum over my side of the alps.

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