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Russell Howard's apparently insurmountable breast milk issues...

109 replies

ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 14:34

I love RH...every last thing about him....except his apparently massive mental problem regarding breast milk.

Every other show he seems to be pulling faces, gagging and generally freaking out about it...

Russell, darling, it's just milk sweetie. Milk designed by nature for humans to drink. I mean you do realise that cow's milk come out of cow mammary glands don't you?

Maybe you could redress the balance and do a set on how utterly disgusting it is for anyone to drink, see, think about or generally come into contact with cow's milk.....

AIBU to think RH should stop with the whole BM is disgusting meme and if he can't say anything reasonable on the topic then silence on the matter would work just fine?

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LadyBeagleEyes · 03/06/2013 15:11

Well I'm a meat eater and will happily eat a steak from a cow, just as I drink cow's milk.
The chance of me eating a strange woman's breast milk ice cream is about the same as me eating her leg.

ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:12

lady that is a false comparison. Breast milk is a valid food stuff. Human thigh meat isn't.

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TheBirdsFellDownToDingADong · 03/06/2013 15:13

Oh he's dreadful. He's just One Joke Man isn't he? With his little shrink t shirts and his waving his arms round and doing the "funny" accent.

At times I think I'd rather have Frankie Boyle.

(only joking, but RH is cringily unfunny once you've heard his one joke for the nth time)

Nehru · 03/06/2013 15:14

lol at rhubarb

ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:15

nehru why on earth would an adult drinking breast milk be a fetish? Because you say so? There are examples of cultures in which it is normalized.

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Picturepuncture · 03/06/2013 15:19

So I would ask again why it is safe enough for a newborn baby, but an adult would baulk at the 'risks'?

Women are tested for diseases in pregnancy though? And the newborn in question has been grown inside the mother in question so it does make it a rather closer relationship.

Fwiw, I don't think it is as grim/risky as RH makes out, but I really really don't think I can force up the energy to be outraged by his jokes on the subject. It's not too much of a cultural stretch to imagine teenagers/people in their 20s (his key demographic) being disgusted by drinking a strangers breast milk.

ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:19

ITS JUST MILK.

really....it is. Protein, fat, water....

I mean a bloke could drink his own piss with less kerfuffle than he could drink his wife's breast milk.

WTAF is up with that? BM = designed by evolution as a food stuff to nourish human beings. Piss = not designed to nourish human beings or be consumed by them at all.

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ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:22

picture that would be relevant if the things that are a problem where the same things tested for in pregnancy and if they were transmisible in utero, but they mostly aren't.

The take home message is that BM is incredibly low risk as a food stuff (certainly wrt cows milk) and that this is true both for babies and adults.

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Birdsgottafly · 03/06/2013 15:25

It depends on why the adult is drinking bf, whether it is a fetish.

Apparently it is the norm in Myleene Klass's family, her father used BM in his tea.

I am not comfy with it being drank straight from the breast, by other adults, breasts are sexual in our culture, it isn't a cultural norm to latch on our family and friends (it would make good threads, though).

We do consider the risk to babies, that is why we test pregnant women for HIV etc, so we can plan the best care for the baby. There is lots of on-going research around BF and disease/medication.

There are lots of sex fetish sites dedicated to lactation, could be a nice little money earner whilst on ML.

CherylTrole · 03/06/2013 15:26

ICBINEG you do realise this thread has turned into the usual bf/ff boring rant?! Russell Howard is funny but not as funny as Frankie Boyle. It also bores me to tears when Mylene NoKlass goes on about offering hem BM to her family. Go away you media tart. YAWN.

CherylTrole · 03/06/2013 15:27

*her

ppeatfruit · 03/06/2013 15:28

I'm interested in herbals and Culpeper was using breast milk as medicine in the 1640s. I totally agree with you ICBINEG

CherylTrole · 03/06/2013 15:29

OP YABU Russell Howard would call you a patronising cow Grin

ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:29

cheryl yes I know...it always does....

I am kinda interested though in whether people can genuinely do the double think involved in thinking BM is disgusting for adults but fine for children, or if there is a lot of overlap between people who think it is disgusting for adults and the people who yell abuse at BFing mums around here.

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ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:30

birds I would comfortable with BM drinking adults being a 'what you do in your own home is fine but I don't want to hear about it' sort of thing....but I don't think it is....as several comments on here indicate.

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ICBINEG · 03/06/2013 15:31

cheryl what? because I called him sweetie? Well he is younger than me Grin

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Birdsgottafly · 03/06/2013 15:33

I tasted my own BM, i think most people do, even by accident.

There isn't a need to give BM to adults, or older children.

I think that you can do what ever you want in private, but on this subject, you shouldn't be telling others what they should be comfy with.

I can imagine the exploitation of women that would go on if this became the norm across cultures and the amount of babies that would suffer as a result.

Titsalinabumsquash · 03/06/2013 15:34

I absolutely love Russell Howard, he's very inoffensive I think. He comes across as do harmless and his bits about the Queen and Prince Phillip always have me in stitches. I find it gross for adults to drink BM, no I don't know why, yes it's probably better than cows milk but yet I still find it icky. I like good news, Russell seems quite intelligent as well as funny. IMO

MonstrousPippin · 03/06/2013 15:37

Just hypothesising a bit - perhaps it's because, in many people's minds when you take away the breast feeding baby, breasts become 'boobies' - something sexual in nature.

If you then start talking about breast milk in the context of adults, it kind of becomes 'boobie milk' rather than breast milk and people get an uncomfortable cross-over between something sexual and something associated with babies that should not be sexual. Some people will get a feeling that it is just wrong, particularly youngish lads who cannot thing of breasts as anything other than sexual in nature.

People don't get as far as thinking through the nutritional benefits of breast milk because automatically the brain files kids stuff separately from sexual stuff and it gets stuck there.

CherylTrole · 03/06/2013 15:38

ICBINEG Pretty much and everything you said in your OP Grin
I havent heard him mention BM EVER! I hope you are not sacrificing poor RH over BM......

FrenchRuby · 03/06/2013 15:38

I love Russell Howard. I think he's hilarious. I'm another one who finds the idea of drinking bm myself a bit icky, but then again, I don't drink cows milk (or any kind feom any animal) either.

Mabelface · 03/06/2013 15:38

I really like him. He's childish in his humour, yes, but a lot of what he talks about relates to his childhood. I think he was more shocked that the reporter just decided to jump on that woman's breast rather than the fact that she produces milk. I also like the fact that he researches to find some good in the world.

mrsjay · 03/06/2013 15:52

TBF he sort of screws up his face and jokes about peoples obsession with breast milk not that there is anything wrong with breast milk, the joke is some womens and mens obsession with it as a food source,

mrsjay · 03/06/2013 15:53

he did a story on good news maybe last year about adult babies and erm BM anybody would pull a face at that imo

ballinacup · 03/06/2013 15:55

To be fair, I would imagine he'd have the same reaction if the man had drunk milk directly from a cow's udder.

It's the method of delivery, to a random man, rather than the actual breastmilk that made the joke funny. Would you be happy for a reporter to have a bit of a suck on your tit on television?